# Senate blocks student loan relief **URL:** \ **Category:** Political Topics\ **Created:** [June 3, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972 "2023-06-03T17:36:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lit041000](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lit041000/32/32042_2.png) [@lit041000](https://community.goactuary.com/u/lit041000)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/1 "2023-06-03T17:36:24Z")
> **[Senate votes to overturn Biden’s student loan relief program](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-vote-block-bidens-student-debt-relief-program-rcna87223)** > > Biden has said he'll veto the measure, but his loan forgiveness program faces its true test at the Supreme Court, which is expected to rule on a challenge to the plan this month. So walk me through this. The democrats get elected on the promise of forgiving student debt. They currently control the senate. So they pass a bill to block loan forgiveness? When the Supreme Court inevitably blocks student loan forgiveness after great “thoughtful deliberation” I’m never voting again for either party. I caught the old bait and switch the first time they started talking about an issue that matters to me ---
**Author:** ![colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/colonelsmoothie/32/136_2.png) [@colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/colonelsmoothie)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/2 "2023-06-03T17:50:15Z")
I think those fools should live with the debt they totally didn’t have to take out. ---
**Author:** ![colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/colonelsmoothie/32/136_2.png) [@colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/colonelsmoothie)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/3 "2023-06-03T17:53:36Z")
Lol like people think you gotta take a 4 year vacation at a private resort to do what you can do in the library, that sounds smart. ---
**Author:** ![MAX](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/max/32/469_2.png) [@MAX](https://community.goactuary.com/u/MAX)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/4 "2023-06-03T18:08:53Z")
Which democrats were elected on the promise of forgiving student loan debt? ---
**Author:** ![Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Indy)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/5 "2023-06-03T18:43:24Z")
Among the Ds, Manchin and Tester voted “no”. Bennet and Warner did not vote. Unless you voted for one of them, you really can’t complain about “bait and switch”. ---
**Author:** ![lit041000](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lit041000/32/32042_2.png) [@lit041000](https://community.goactuary.com/u/lit041000)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/6 "2023-06-03T19:17:31Z")
[https://www.npr.org/2021/12/07/1062070001/student-loan-forgiveness-debt-president-biden-campaign-promise](https://www.npr.org/2021/12/07/1062070001/student-loan-forgiveness-debt-president-biden-campaign-promise) ---
**Author:** ![lit041000](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lit041000/32/32042_2.png) [@lit041000](https://community.goactuary.com/u/lit041000)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/7 "2023-06-03T19:25:21Z")
Oh you right. It’s 48v49 with 3 independents. For a moment I thought the Ds were just like nah fuck our constituents ---
**Author:** ![lit041000](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lit041000/32/32042_2.png) [@lit041000](https://community.goactuary.com/u/lit041000)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/8 "2023-06-03T19:29:25Z")
So let’s just go ahead and let doctors self study and self certify? How about civil engineers too? None of my degrees felt a vacation. More like 80 hour weeks ---
**Author:** ![lit041000](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lit041000/32/32042_2.png) [@lit041000](https://community.goactuary.com/u/lit041000)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/9 "2023-06-03T19:37:58Z")
Are employers going to start hiring kids without degrees? It’s not young people thinking they need to go to college for funsies, it’s them understanding they will never get hired into corporate America without one ---
**Author:** ![MAX](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/max/32/469_2.png) [@MAX](https://community.goactuary.com/u/MAX)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/10 "2023-06-03T20:25:30Z")
So, 1 dem thats not in the senate. ---
**Author:** ![MAX](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/max/32/469_2.png) [@MAX](https://community.goactuary.com/u/MAX)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/11 "2023-06-03T20:28:10Z")
My last 3 companies stopped requiring degrees for the majority of their entry level positions. Current company has hired several as well and started a much better training program at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/12 "2023-06-03T21:35:40Z")
They don’t have to pay them as much at first. Then pay them more when they produce. Dump the ones that don’t. Like the NFL draft. ---
**Author:** ![Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/whiskey/32/145_2.png) [@Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Whiskey)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/13 "2023-06-03T23:08:53Z")
> [@Indy](#): > > Among the Ds, Manchin and Tester voted “no”. > > Bennet and Warner did not vote. > > Unless you voted for one of them, you really can’t complain about “bait and switch I do wonder how this was even allowed to come to a vote on the senate floor. Was this yhe big “win” that McCarthy got? That the senate had to vote on a DOA bill? ---
**Author:** ![Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Indy)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/14 "2023-06-04T01:06:55Z")
> [@Whiskey](#): > > I do wonder how this was even allowed to come to a vote on the senate floor. Most senators didn’t want the US to default on its debt. ---
**Author:** ![colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/colonelsmoothie/32/136_2.png) [@colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/colonelsmoothie)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/15 "2023-06-04T01:27:03Z")
You can get trained on the job imo. And actually the requirements are kind of ridiculous in the US. In other countries it’s just a bachelors of medicine. ---
**Author:** ![Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/whiskey/32/145_2.png) [@Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Whiskey)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 1:30am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/16 "2023-06-04T01:30:27Z")
> [@Indy](#): > > Most senators didn’t want the US to default on its debt. My mistake as this messaging has been confusing ---
**Author:** ![Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/whiskey/32/145_2.png) [@Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Whiskey)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 1:37am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/17 "2023-06-04T01:37:50Z")
> [@Indy](#): > > Among the Ds, Manchin and Tester voted “no” Your “no” means they voted for the resolution? 52-46 Rs also had Sinema ---
**Author:** ![Triweasel](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/triweasel/32/159_2.png) [@Triweasel](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Triweasel)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/18 "2023-06-04T01:49:07Z")
Isn’t Biden planning on vetoing this anyway? ---
**Author:** ![NumericalNeuroticism](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/numericalneuroticism/32/464_2.png) [@NumericalNeuroticism](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NumericalNeuroticism)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/19 "2023-06-04T01:49:27Z")
This was separate from the debt deal. It was done under the congressional review act which first went through the House with ~2 Dems voting Aye, then the Senate had to vote on it with a majority threshold not subject to filibuster. Since it’s Biden’s policy, he’ll veto it and the votes are symbolic, but this is a way to roll back a lame duck policy if there’s a new congress and president. ---
**Author:** ![Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/whiskey/32/145_2.png) [@Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Whiskey)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972/20 "2023-06-04T02:18:23Z")
Thank you for the detail. I saw a bunch of contradictory stuff when i tried to find details. [Next page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/senate-blocks-student-loan-relief/7972.md?page=2)