Self-Driving vehicles

Hit a deer once, and found it deeply upsetting. I am looking forward to an autonomous future where deer are not hit.

My mom once hit a deer and it bounced off her car and landed on the next car. She overheard the driver talking to the police “it just… it just… it just came out of the sky…?”

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We might have to look to a company other than Tesla for that.

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Lol. Yes. I don’t think of Tesla as self-driving, despite literally being called that. They might get there later, or they might not.

I think Waymo is self-driving now, and probably already great at avoiding deer.

Unfortunately for deer, Waymo is not everywhere. They are increasing exponentially-- doubling every 6 months? maybe? But exponentials take forever.

There will need to be some degree of risk acceptance in this category. I grew up in a rural area - hitting deer or other animal life is sadly unavoidable in some cases when driving the speed limit on country roads or even highways. There is no programming that can take care of that 100% of the time. Deer particularly can jump from a hilly wooded area onto a roadway in an interval of time that just cannot be accounted for when a vehicle is going 40-50+ MPH. They simply are not visible until its too late, even wth automated cameras.

I suppose you could have a car drive well below the speed limit in places where visibility is hindered. But that’s probably an unacceptable use case in reality.

Yes, 100% is going to be almost impossible in some areas. It got me thinking about acoustic measures that could be switched on for heavily wooded areas to warn the deer. This study shows that 25,000 Hz is effective at repelling deer. However, it only works from about 100 feet, so not a lot of warning for a fast approaching vehicle.

There’s a reason that hitting a deer is generally considered a not-at-fault accident. Sometimes it’s just unavoidable.

It would be nice if autonomous vehicles weren’t a lot worse than people at avoiding wildlife, though.

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Waymo:

Also Waymo:

Swiss Re have now looked at this:

I wonder if they could control for the type of miles driven? Do the Waymo drivers drive on freeways? And aren’t they fairly limited on where they are allowed to go anyway?

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Doesn’t seem like locking you into a vehicle that is on fire or exploding is a desirable feature

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“The benchmark was calibrated using both mileage (driving exposure) and residence zip-code (geographic region). Specifically, only the claims associated with vehicles registered to addresses (i.e., where the insured resides) within Waymo’s operating zip codes in San Francisco, the Phoenix metropolitan region, Los Angeles, and Austin were included.”

So, some adjustment there, but I don’t know how much adjustment. Fwiw, Waymo drives all over SF now, but that’s fairly recent I think?

I didn’t see whether they counted highway miles/accidents. If they did it wouldn’t help Waymo, since highway miles have a whole lot fewer accidents.

Regardless, I think the main takeaway is they have been in hardly any accidents after 25 million miles, which I think would be hard to do even in somewhat safer areas.

And vehicle fire deaths have doubled in the last 5 years…

Also, how often does Tesla hand over that kind of private data?

Here’s actual video of Cyber Truck exploding right outside the Trump Vegas hotel. Sorry its on X.

Doesn’t help that it is on X.
Need:

  1. Source of video.
  2. Verification that it was not a set-up.
  3. Some more actual professional journalism.

Need to separate News from Media, since Public Media like TwiX, InstaFace, etc. is now whatever anyone thinks is news to everyone in the World.

I’ll do it for you:

Setup, possibly a “terror attack.”

Tangent:

The vehicle was rented through the car rental company Turo, according to a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation. McMahill said it was a “coincidence” that the truck used to ram into a crowd in New Orleans was also rented through Turo, and that authorities are investigating. CNN has reached out to the company.

Isn’t Turo the “:rental car company” in which you rent someone’s private vehicle?

Yep. Wonder if their insurance covers this eventuality.

Yes, this is sarcasm

I guess it was intended as a showy suicide.

Looks like PTSD and Traumatic Brain Injuries.

Long video but I was impressed with how far China has come along (Spoiler: a lot further than Tesla). Looks like we’re closer to level 5 than I thought. As well as cameras, it uses lidar, radar and ultrasonic.

The famous Wile E Coyote video -

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