# Self-Driving vehicles **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [December 28, 2020, 4:08am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637 "2020-12-28T04:08:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/765 "2025-11-20T14:54:05Z")
> [@yoyo](#): > > And Teslas don’t need pre mapped territories or geofencing to operate with FSD. Google has a _lot_ of data about car-accessible territories, though. ---
**Author:** ![yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/u/yoyo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/766 "2025-11-20T15:19:28Z")
yup. i’m all for competition in this industry. Tesla is the current leader in self driving for consumer vehicles in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/mathman/32/14042_2.png) [@Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Mathman)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/767 "2025-11-20T16:04:40Z")
> [@yoyo](#): > > Tesla is the current leader in self driving for consumer vehicles in the US. I wish Tesla would get to hands-free highway driving. I don’t mind city driving, it’s on the interstate where I’d love to have the easy button - I know, keeping a hand on the wheel isn’t a huge inconvenience. But Ford, GM, and I think Mercedes now have hands free highway driving. At any rate, I like Autopilot, I can focus a little more on traffic, or looking out for deer in the rural parts of my state, or whatever. > [@yoyo](#): > > i’m all for competition in this industry. 100%, it’s interesting how differently Waymo and Tesla are approaching this. Waymo is going somewhat methodically, very limited service areas. Tesla is hoping that at some point the AI/LLM/whatever it is will figure out enough about the rules of the road to be able to just get it right everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/stevegrondin/32/3257_2.png) [@SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveGrondin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/768 "2025-11-20T19:43:23Z")
Mercedes has a level 3 system, which is arguably more capable than Tesla’s level 2. ---
**Author:** ![yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/u/yoyo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/769 "2025-11-21T13:46:50Z")
Does AP require hands on steering wheel? FSD doesn’t ---
**Author:** ![yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/u/yoyo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/770 "2025-11-21T13:55:05Z")
but not on city streets, only on select roads, and at speeds under something like 40 mph (in the US). so yes, more capable under strict conditions, for now ---
**Author:** ![Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/mathman/32/14042_2.png) [@Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Mathman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/771 "2025-11-21T14:30:45Z")
Will FSD let you do hands free on the highway? ---
**Author:** ![yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/u/yoyo)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/772 "2025-11-21T14:32:00Z")
Yes ---
**Author:** ![Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/mathman/32/14042_2.png) [@Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Mathman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/773 "2025-11-21T15:07:23Z")
I should have known that, I only had FSD for one month, but I did get a taste of it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/stevegrondin/32/3257_2.png) [@SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveGrondin)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/774 "2025-11-21T21:57:41Z")
Hands-free is possible if your eyes are on the road ahead. Sunglasses, or hat that prevents the inside camera from seeing your eyes will disable hands-free. No word if these will defeat the surveillance. ![image](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/5/d57565984e803b2b39dfe87a62f86f0f3d4d3d55.png) ---
**Author:** ![yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/u/yoyo)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/775 "2025-11-22T13:29:49Z")
> [@SteveGrondin](#): > > Sunglasses, or hat that prevents the inside camera from seeing your eyes will disable hands-free. true, but misleading yes, i will get an occasional prompt to apply a slight nudge to the steering wheel if i’m wearing sunglasses to confirm i’m supervising, but FSD was never disabled. head motions indicating the driver is checking side and rear view mirrors reduces the frequency of prompts. sure, i can ignore all prompts and FSD will eventually disengage. putting on a pair of sunglasses or a hat won’t trigger an immediate disengagement ---
**Author:** ![SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/stevegrondin/32/3257_2.png) [@SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveGrondin)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/776 "2025-11-22T14:32:29Z")
Thanks for sharing your experience, it gives good context. i only have internet and acquaintance data. ---
**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/777 "2025-11-23T22:45:12Z")
Riding in a Waymo again. First time in a while I’ve got one instead of a human driver. ---
**Author:** ![yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/u/yoyo)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/778 "2025-11-25T21:24:46Z")
i updated the software to the latest version today and had two interventions with FSD attempted to make a u turn where such turns are prohibited. i took over and reported it to Tesla (driver is prompted to send a voice message to the engineers after manually disengaging) tried to pull into my next door neighbor’s driveway when returning home otoh, it waits for driver wishing to exit a business parking lot and lets them in, moves over for merging traffic, picked good parking spots at the gym, costco, sprouts, pawn shop (looking for a chain for a medallion i bought in greece this year - dang, even 10k gold is expensive!) ---
**Author:** ![yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/u/yoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/779 "2025-12-21T13:30:28Z")
> **[Client Challenge](https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/waymo-temporarily-suspends-service-sf-amid-power-21254917.php)** Waymo vehicles don’t currently know what to do when the traffic lights are out (treat as four way stop) ---
**Author:** ![SredniVashtar](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/srednivashtar/32/2894_2.png) [@SredniVashtar](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SredniVashtar)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/780 "2025-12-24T23:51:22Z")
According to Waymo they do know how to handle disabled stoplights, but they sometimes phone home to double-check what’s going on. And since there’s a ton of Waymos, this instantly overloaded the system. I don’t know if driving around during a disaster is all that necessary, though definitely they need to figure out how to not stop dead in the middle of an intersection. ---
**Author:** ![Breadmaker](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/breadmaker/32/83065_2.png) [@Breadmaker](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Breadmaker)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/781 "2025-12-25T00:02:33Z")
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/waymo-self-driving-taxis-toronto-9.7023379](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/waymo-self-driving-taxis-toronto-9.7023379) I heard this on the news the other day. ---
**Author:** ![yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@yoyo](https://community.goactuary.com/u/yoyo)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/782 "2025-12-26T14:29:51Z")
i like driving but i also like FSD (Supervised). 97% of the last 967 miles were on FSD. no long trips but a mix of hwy and street travel i hope Rivian can make a go of it. great vehicles but software capabilities have some catching up to do ---
**Author:** ![Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/mathman/32/14042_2.png) [@Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Mathman)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/783 "2025-12-26T16:40:21Z")
That, and service. I’m a huge fan of Lucid, gorgeous cars. But if your Rivian or Lucid breaks, not a lot of service centers. I don’t know, maybe they send someone? Tesla has service centers all over plus mobile service. The spoiler on my car was loose from the factory, I submitted a ticket in the app and two days later they fixed it at my house. But yeah, I’ve heard the Rivian software is buggy. ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637/784 "2025-12-26T19:55:09Z")
Still glad I am Lucid enough to drive myself. Picturing “WALL-e” every time a new “technology” makes our lives easier. [Previous page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637.md?page=38) [Next page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/self-driving-vehicles/1637.md?page=40)