# RIP Mikhail Gorbachev **URL:** \ **Category:** Political Topics\ **Created:** [August 31, 2022, 12:51pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/rip-mikhail-gorbachev/6400 "2022-08-31T12:51:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 12:51pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/rip-mikhail-gorbachev/6400/1 "2022-08-31T12:51:51Z")
A shame there aren’t more Soviet/Russian leaders like him, alas that’s probably why he ultimately was pushed to resign. ---
**Author:** ![PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/patientzombie/32/391_2.png) [@PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/PatientZombie)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/rip-mikhail-gorbachev/6400/2 "2022-08-31T13:03:44Z")
I do not know enough about recent Russian History to understand if those that followed Gorbachev (including Putin v1) led to a slope back to the demented cold war tyranny that exists today. or did they try and maintain the Russian democracy, but Putin just turned the country. I feel Putin didn’t fully start this way, but that could be he needed to build his allies and gain fuller control ---
**Author:** ![AcademicActuary](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@AcademicActuary](https://community.goactuary.com/u/AcademicActuary)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 1:09pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/rip-mikhail-gorbachev/6400/3 "2022-08-31T13:09:54Z")
> [@PatientZombie](#): > > I feel Putin didn’t fully start this way, > **[1999 Russian apartment bombings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings)** > > In September 1999, a series of explosions hit four apartment blocks in the Russian cities of Buynaksk, Moscow, and Volgodonsk, killing more than 300, injuring more than 1,000, and spreading a wave of fear across the country. The bombings, together with the 1999 war of Dagestan, triggered the Second Chechen War. The handling of the crisis by Vladimir Putin, who was prime minister at the time, boosted his popularity greatly and helped him attain the presidency within a few months. The blasts hit B... Putin never had and never will have any interest in Russian democracy. ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/rip-mikhail-gorbachev/6400/4 "2022-08-31T13:23:39Z")
I think Gorbachev was an idealist operating in a far more ruthless political system, so he was pushed out. You could argue if he was more pragmatic maybe he could have been more successful at turning the Soviet Union into a democracy, but his ethics were in the right place from what I’ve read. ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/rip-mikhail-gorbachev/6400/5 "2022-08-31T13:26:44Z")
" The blasts hit Buynaksk on 4 September and in Moscow on 9 and 13 September. On 13 September, [Russian Duma](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Duma) speaker [Gennadiy Seleznyov](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennadiy_Seleznyov) made an announcement in the Duma about receiving a report that another bombing had just happened in the city of [Volgodonsk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volgodonsk). A bombing did indeed happen in Volgodonsk, but only three days later, on 16 September. Chechen militants were blamed for the bombings, but denied responsibility, along with Chechen president [Aslan Maskhadov](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aslan_Maskhadov)." 🤦‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 7:09am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/rip-mikhail-gorbachev/6400/6 "2022-09-01T07:09:06Z")
> [@PatientZombie](#): > > I feel Putin didn’t fully start this way I recall discussing in 1999 / 2000 that Putin basically wanted to re-establish the Soviet Union. I think he DID fully start this way.