# Random Sports Thoughts

**URL:** <https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617>\
**Category:** Sports\
**Created:** [April 14, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617 "2021-04-14T20:43:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/163 "2024-10-02T02:28:40Z")

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Yes, Fenway is an example of where this might work. Sell seats in the batters eye for big games/playoffs, and give out light+dark tshirts.

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**Author:** ![1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/1695814/32/38506_2.png) [@1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/u/1695814)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/164 "2024-10-02T02:29:07Z")

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> [@ArthurItas](#):
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> Mohamed Sanu’s career passing stats

[impressive](https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14922/mohamed-sanu)

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**Author:** ![3rookie](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/3/e0b2c6/32.png) [@3rookie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/3rookie)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 5:18am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/165 "2024-10-02T05:18:49Z")

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Now check out Antwaan Randel El’s passing stats

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**Author:** ![Funemployed](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/funemployed/32/417_2.png) [@Funemployed](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Funemployed)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/166 "2024-10-02T13:34:33Z")

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> [@3rookie](#):
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> Antwaan Randel El’s passing stats

Pretty unremarkable…

 ![image](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/3X/3/0/308f6502ed1969cee85d324f585b36b05567d01f.png)

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**Author:** ![3rookie](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/3/e0b2c6/32.png) [@3rookie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/3rookie)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/167 "2024-10-02T14:12:30Z")

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I meant NFL passing stats…

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**Author:** ![Kid\_Rock](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/a4c791/32.png) [@Kid\_Rock](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Kid_Rock)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/168 "2024-10-02T14:55:27Z")

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![IMG_0166](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/3X/0/4/04beb6562f37321c35a2908278a048b7507799c5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 11:21pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/169 "2024-10-02T23:21:31Z")

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How is passer rating calculated?

Does it seem odd to anyone else that his passer rating for PIT and WAS combined is higher than both his PIT passer rating AND his WAS passer rating?

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/170 "2024-10-02T23:22:44Z")

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I assume it must be mathematically possible but I’m curious to crunch the numbers.

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**Author:** ![1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/1695814/32/38506_2.png) [@1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/u/1695814)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/172 "2024-10-02T23:57:43Z")

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> [@twig93](#):
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> How is passer rating calculated?

 ![IMG_3745](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/3X/3/f/3f1640f327fcdf9161b81ea9820f3719ccd26882.jpeg)

I also have a nice spreadsheet where one can input the inputs and receive an output. It’s pretty simple to set up, no doubt.

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**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/173 "2024-10-03T00:43:47Z")

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Good actuarial question is: how many attempts before this stat is credible, i.e., worthy of discussion and allows predictions to be made based on it?  
Actuaries might have a credible amount that differs from a head Fuh-baw coach.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/174 "2024-10-03T00:57:01Z")

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Oh we are obviously cherry-picking non-credible samples for fun.

I still am curious to figure out how it can be that a combined passer rating is higher than a team-level one.

Will crunch the numbers now.

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**Author:** ![1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/1695814/32/38506_2.png) [@1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/u/1695814)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/175 "2024-10-03T01:10:03Z")

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:popcorn:

I figure it has to do with adding denominators or something like that

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/176 "2024-10-03T01:11:11Z")

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Ok next dumb question: where it says “Rate”… uh… does that mean “passer rating”?

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**Author:** ![1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/1695814/32/38506_2.png) [@1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/u/1695814)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/177 "2024-10-03T01:13:40Z")

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From Funemployed’s & Kid\_Rock’s screen shots? Yes. That is the passer rating.

You should be able to match that number.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/178 "2024-10-03T01:14:31Z")

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I’m calling the following: (a b c d passer\_rating

PIT: 2.9444 1.6111 4.4444 2.375 189.5833  
WAS: 1.8333 3.5 4.4444 2.375 202.5463  
Total: 2.5741 2.2407 4.4444 2.375 193.9043

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/179 "2024-10-03T01:17:05Z")

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I am not matching any of the three passer ratings and my combined passer ratings is, quite logically, in between the two team passer ratings.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/180 "2024-10-03T01:20:47Z")

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I wonder if it’s a rounding thing. I did this in Excel and rounded nothing.

ETA: Naw, rounding doesn’t make that much difference. Truncating might.

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**Author:** ![1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/1695814/32/38506_2.png) [@1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/u/1695814)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/181 "2024-10-03T02:06:25Z")

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I round Col F to 3 places:

 ![image](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/d/9dfb2462d259a26d21f59710a708d1d268e5d1c7.png)

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/184 "2024-10-03T02:29:25Z")

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Oh, I missed that a-c are getting capped at 2.375.

That cap also explains my initial question.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-sports-thoughts/2617/185 "2024-10-03T02:43:13Z")

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Ok, so conceptually this is interesting. I’ve never delved into this before.

The calculation is implicitly defining perfection as:

a) completing at least 77.5% of your pass attempts

b) passing for at least 12.5 yards per attempt

c) have a TD percentage of at least 11.875%

d) throw 0 interceptions

The last one obviously makes sense. You can’t get fewer than 0 interceptions.

But the first three can be exceeded and you get no extra credit for doing so.

So if you’re sub-dividing a player’s career and he exceeded one of the thresholds for this subset and exceeded a different threshold for that subset of his career then his overall passer rating can exceed either of the subsets.

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