# Random Political Thoughts

**URL:** <https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146>\
**Category:** Political Topics\
**Created:** [February 22, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146 "2021-02-22T15:54:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/stevegrondin/32/3257_2.png) [@SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveGrondin)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/103 "2023-03-17T17:59:41Z")

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The communal enforced forgetfulness of the long time USSR enemy is flat out amazing to me.

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**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/104 "2023-03-17T18:01:01Z")

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> [@Jasper07734](#):
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> I would think that the right to self-determination would be important to uphold for that crowd.

Obviously not in recent years in many ways.

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**Author:** ![soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/soyleche/32/42_2.png) [@soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/u/soyleche)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/105 "2023-03-17T20:21:29Z")

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That was when they were communist. Now that they are more fascist it’s much better.

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**Author:** ![AcademicActuary](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@AcademicActuary](https://community.goactuary.com/u/AcademicActuary)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/106 "2023-03-17T20:36:36Z")

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Disagree, MAGAs love Netanyahu.

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**Author:** ![PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/patientzombie/32/391_2.png) [@PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/PatientZombie)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/107 "2023-03-17T20:55:22Z")

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hate Palestinians more

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**Author:** ![SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/stevegrondin/32/3257_2.png) [@SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveGrondin)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/108 "2023-03-17T22:45:30Z")

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Dammit, we hated fascists too, killed a bunch of them. Haven’t these woke-ass Trumpkins watched “Patton”?

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**Author:** ![soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/soyleche/32/42_2.png) [@soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/u/soyleche)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 5:38am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/109 "2023-03-18T05:38:23Z")

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That was only like 5 years. We were scared of communists for 40 or so.

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**Author:** ![1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/1695814/32/38506_2.png) [@1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/u/1695814)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/110 "2023-03-31T02:05:30Z")

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> **[Turkey approves Finland Nato membership bid](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65132527)**
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> Turkish MPs vote to admit Finland to the West's defensive alliance, after blocking it for months.

tl;dr: Finland will now be formally admitted into Nato at its next summit, taking place in July in Lithuania.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 2:55am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/111 "2023-03-31T02:55:56Z")

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How in the world was Finland not already in? They border USSR/Russia… you’d think that would be powerful motivation to join.

I mean, I know they weren’t… been following the story a bit, but it just seems crazy to me that they weren’t.

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**Author:** ![1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/1695814/32/38506_2.png) [@1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/u/1695814)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/112 "2023-03-31T03:10:05Z")

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Well, it’s a long story…but it has at least something to do with “[don’t poke the bear](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finlandization)”.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/113 "2023-03-31T03:13:28Z")

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I figured that must be the reason… didn’t realize there was actually a pejorative term to describe the phenomenon though. TIL.

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**Author:** ![PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/patientzombie/32/391_2.png) [@PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/PatientZombie)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 8:39am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/114 "2023-03-31T08:39:22Z")

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I think i remember when the Ukraine invasion started, Russia threatening NATO ( or threatening Finland), if they were admitted

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 10:49am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/115 "2023-03-31T10:49:37Z")

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Well they were hot & bothered about Ukraine joining, for sure.

I think that there’s basically an unstated requirement to join NATO that your borders have to be undisputed, which was never really the case for Ukraine. IIRC Russia has been griping about Crimea and Donbas essentially since the USSR broke up in 1991. But I think NATO has an unstated goal of not wishing to get involved in border disputes.

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**Author:** ![PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/patientzombie/32/391_2.png) [@PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/PatientZombie)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/116 "2023-03-31T13:00:48Z")

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> **[Putin issues fresh warning to Finland and Sweden on installing Nato...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/29/russia-condemns-nato-invitation-finland-sweden)**
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> President says Moscow would respond ‘symmetrically’ to any deployments, and foreign ministry accuses Nato of trying to destabilise Russian society

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**Author:** ![SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/stevegrondin/32/3257_2.png) [@SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveGrondin)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/117 "2023-03-31T13:18:48Z")

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I would love for Russia to respond symmetrically. Its asymmetric actions are the destructive ones. Also note article date is June 2022, so “fresh” in headline isn’t relative to today.

OK, “love” is a little exaggeration. If symmetric meant “for defense” I am totally cool with that. However, troop buildups aren’t always for defense.

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**Author:** ![1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/1695814/32/38506_2.png) [@1695814](https://community.goactuary.com/u/1695814)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/118 "2023-04-03T16:22:53Z")

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Sanna Marin out as prime minister Finland.

> **[Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin gets ousted by conservatives in a tight...](https://apple.news/AHbjGyRZvRTyEfdM-yH9dEQ)**
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> Finland's center-right National Coalition Party, headed by Petteri Orpo, eked out a narrow victory over the country's populist party. Sanna Marin's party fell to third place.

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**Author:** ![Jasper07734](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/jasper07734/32/24056_2.png) [@Jasper07734](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Jasper07734)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/119 "2023-04-19T13:12:16Z")

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What’s the real story with that UN report that supposedly calls for pedophilia to be globally normalized or whatever? There aren’t many links on it (and the few that are out there seem to be very fringe-y so I don’t want to link them), which means either they’re trying to cover it up :tfh: or that Mike Moon is exaggerating things so he can run for Secretary General.

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**Author:** ![Jasper07734](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/jasper07734/32/24056_2.png) [@Jasper07734](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Jasper07734)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/120 "2023-04-19T13:15:05Z")

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I know that The Blaze is fringe trash, but just in case you don’t know what I’m talking about:

> **[UN-backed report suggests minors may be able to consent to sex – critics...](https://www.theblaze.com/news/un-backed-report-suggests-minors-may-be-able-to-consent-to-sex-critics-accuse-org-of-attempting-to-normalize-pedophilia)**
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> A March report by international legal professionals and backed by the United Nations suggested that minors may be able to consent to sex.The report, titled "The 8 March Principles for a Human Rights-Based Approach to Criminal Law Proscribing Conduct...

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**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/121 "2023-04-19T16:00:25Z")

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I’ve skimmed the report and read a couple articles about it, I don’t see anywhere about pedophilia. Specifically there’s no language surrounding adults having sexual relations with minors.

I would presume that the intent here is, “Even if your country says that you cannot consent until 18, we claim there are cases where people younger than 18 can consent.” Take 2 average 16-year-olds for example. In general I’d say both are capable of consent.

The stronger point that seems to be emphasized is that any enforcement of sexual relations regarding minors should be applied without discrimination on sex or gender. I.e. We should not assume that a 16-year-old male is capable of consent while an otherwise identical 16-year-old female is not.

Similarly, we shouldn’t assume that a trans child can consent (and therefore might be punished) but an otherwise identical cis child cannot.

The reporting by Fox et. al. appears to just be “groomer”-style paranoia.

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**Author:** ![Jasper07734](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/jasper07734/32/24056_2.png) [@Jasper07734](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Jasper07734)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/random-political-thoughts/2146/122 "2023-04-19T17:09:07Z")

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Ah. So it’s basically just the UN asserting that children have rights (which they’ve already done) and not the Build-a-burgers meeting up for pizza in DC.

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