Omicron

If he grows his own food, was he not impacted by the Michigan governor’s ban on the sale of gardening supplies & seeds in spring 2020? Has southwestern Michigan just ignored Whitmer this entire time?

Maybe my perceptions are distorted living in a very blue area of a blue state, but his whole “I don’t even know covid is a thing” schtick seems disingenuous & an outlier in America, especially if he’s a contributor to the Atlantic.

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Same, possibly for different reasons.

Because he’s a smug insular d-bag?

Michigan banned the sale of gardening supplies and seeds!? I live in a very blue state, and gardening was a popular pandemic hobby. Some of the local shops switched to only contactless pickup for a while (call them from the car, while in the parking lot. Discuss what you want. Give them a credit card number. Wait for an employee to take your stuff to the outdoors counter. Walk over and pick it up and toss it in the trunk.) but it was never impossible to buy seeds and stuff. Even ignoring that the best seed sources for most people are all on-line and mail-order.

I probably overstated a little, as IIRC, it was a limited ban & ended up being temporary as it was reversed a few weeks later after the appropriate backlash.

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Back to non-trolling posts…

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Maybe similar reasons.

Well, didn’t take long for Omicron to become the dominant strain.

This seems like exceptionally good news in this story. If Omicron is the dominant viral strain found in the water in Orlando and yet is showing up very little in the hospital or in testing then we could finally have our milder version of Covid that is also out infecting the other strains. Immunization for the unvaccinated masses!!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/omicron-dominant-wastewater-samples-florida-173842553.html

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would be a great step if that was the case. if it turned into another type of thing we called “a cold” then we could all get back to normal, with rare cases of viral infections of the meaner strains (although harder for them to persist if we all have a measure of immunity to a related but less punishing variant).

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How do we define the line when something can be called “a cold”?

do you feel cold when you have it

Technically COVID is a cold (not a flu as lots of people say).

I call it a “non-conforming cold” in that it has killed 800,000 Americans. So far.

If people who catch it get mildly ill, but never have trouble breathing, and recover on their own without “long covid” symptoms. If the mortality rate for otherwise healthy 80 year olds is insignificant, and there is essentially no non-fatal morbidity.

This is difficult to define, so makes me think it’ll be a long time

I guess it depends how we define it. You can have a cold that becomes pneumonia that you die from, 80 year olds die from that kind of thing all the time. If we’re waiting for that then we’ll get there in a long time.

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80 year olds who don’t have pre-existing lung disease rarely get pneumonia from colds.

Well surely we’ll have to draw some lines. For example if Omicron (fingers crossed) manifests as a less lethal, more contagious form of COVID is it fair to sit it alongside deadlier, earlier forms of the virus?

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When it becomes common.

Well COVID certainly seems common currently, although I’d imagine we should draw the line based on mortality risk?

Based on the mortality risk of younger people it’s already like a cold for these groups (IMO), but perhaps as a society we choose to call this a societal cold-type illness when mortality reaches a certain threshold for more at-risk groups. Curious about peoples’ thoughts around where that line is.

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It’s quite possible that it already is a less lethal (IF Vaccinated), more contagious form of COVID.
I’m guessing way more people have it or have had it than reported, simply because the symptoms aren’t causing anxiety (like loss of taste and smell) and hospitalization like last January, pre-vaccine. Not getting tested for every runny nose, for example. Not having a fever, which could get you barred from entering some places.

From The Deseret News:

The symptoms appeared to be similar to other coronavirus variants. Here’s a look at the top five symptoms:

  1. Runny nose.
  2. Headache.
  3. Fatigue (either mild or severe).
  4. Sneezing.
  5. Sore throat.