I think I’ve only made a couple of comments in this thread and they were fairly neutral. I was born to a Jewish mom and a Catholic dad, raised Catholic. Historically, I was all for Israel retaliating in measures that exceeded the original attack since the attacks were from significantly larger countries or regions and they needed to be sure that others understood the “return fire” could be quite a lot worse than the original attacks.
Based on the commentary from primarily, FormerActuary, I am now no longer willing to recognize the responses from Israel as reasonable in any sense, Their (highly pro-Israel commenters) commentary shows that they are unwilling to accept reasonable discussions or alternative viewpoints. It is sad that it has come to this for open-minded posters. I have been a fairly strong and proud supporter of Israel until this latest round of retribution. Posters on this forum who fail to have open discussions has been my tipping point. Congratulations.
My guess is that a lot of food is making it to the civilian population, or else there would be more starvation.
If Hamas was stopping the vast majority of the food from reaching lots of 11yo girls, then those girls would be dead.
I couldn’t tell you much about Gaza or Hamas or food, but it seems like basic math tells you that people are getting calories somehow.
And it also makes me a bit nervous when FA is like “well it’s legal to cut them all off” because I sure don’t want to see 1 million innocent people starve to death because you think it’s technically legal.
That was my first thought as well. But they are offering to let the US monitor that they build no more tunnels, and they won’t be involved in running Gaza anymore, and will lay down all their arms. I’d trust the US to monitor that far more than I’d trust the UN or any Islamic state.
Israel managed a long cease-fire, which ended on October 7th. Since the last cease-fire was reached, Israel has been good about following it. The terms of the cease-fire ended. Israel wasn’t going to just sit back and allow Hamas time to re-arm, build more tunnels, etc.
Who knew that Israel would create false pretenses to get back to doing war crimes under the guise of maintaining national security.
The only thing missing at this point is an open declaration that it’s going to get rid of every Palestinian still in Gaza. That’s the end game, the only question is whether the Palestinians still there agree to leave “voluntarily” or in the bellies of whatever feral animals are present.