Israel - Hamas War October 2023

Yeah, I’m not sure about the underlying merits of the accusation. But it sounds like rather than let that process play out she said a bunch of stuff she wasn’t allowed to say on the radio.

If she’d said the exact same stuff to her Great Uncle Charlie she probably would have violated the same rules but in a way that the university may not have cared about or even known about. But going on the radio was over the top.

Possibly even a FERPA violation, although depending on exactly what was said, maybe not.

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I am hoping that Hamas realizes that Trump would give the Israelis a lot more leeway than Biden and this pushes them to agree to a deal. I also hope that Israel doesn’t wait for Trump to take office and then carry on.

Trump’s called for Israel to do whatever’s necessary to finish the job in Gaza. Israel has very little incentive to entertain peace when they’re about to get powerful backing to intensify the conflict.

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I am (perhaps naively) hoping that the Israeli public’s desire for a deal puts pressure on the govt to agree to one.

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The other plus I see for Israel is that if the cease fire comes they can focus on the war crimes thing as well as rebuilding their economy. The problem with the war crimes thing is it’s being applied to each and every soldier and its now getting very restrictive for the movement of IDF associated people. Honestly they should want not to have to slink around like those nazi war criminals. The sooner they start unentangling that issue the better. A victory against palastinians that leaves them boxed up doesn’t look like a victory.

I hope you are right but I worry that Rastiln is right.

I’ve seen reports that the deal was agreed to by both sides, and the announcement should come sometime today. It will become effective in about a week.

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A peace agreement today is just asking for more of the same down the road. Yahya Sinwar’s younger brother, Mohammed Sinwar, has been rebuilding Hamas’s military. They’ve already declared that they will carry out more attacks like October 7th.
I want the hostages released, and I want the peaceful people in Gaza to be able to live normal lives. In order for that to happen, Hamas must be completely destroyed.
After this cease-fire is implemented, there needs to be an international force stationed in Gaza, to prevent Hamas from having any power at all.

Ah yeah, “the only path to peace is through crushing military victory.”

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Thanks for posting the update. However “about a week” sounds like “after the inauguration” which gives Israel a good opportunity to back out at the 11th hour.

Why not immediately? Or within 24 hours at least?

Hamas is not a rational group. Sometimes, there is evil that needs to be destroyed.

The IDF is no different now.

Case in point:

Gallant has gone public saying that there is nothing left for the IDF to do in Gaza.

So its got zero to do with Hamas.

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Something that fighters on both sides of the conflict would agree on.

Last week I really thought about what evil means. Apparently UN has a unit that focuses on investigations of sexual violence in war zones and it wants to add Israel to a blacklist. This unit asked for access to investigate the claims about october 7 and the government response was the unit was antisemitic and ordered Israeli doctors not to assist with the investigation. However at some point it was revealed that no sexual abuse case had been filed by victims of October 7. The standoff then escalated with the un side saying israel was inflaming the world with propaganda.

On the other side Israel was accused of abusing prisoners. The case highlighted was that the IDF had trained dogs to sexually abuse men. I can’t imagine how you do that and how evil you would be to even think of such a thing let alone train a dog.

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Can’t comment on what happened after October 7th (when they became hostages) as the truth is not known.

But its accurate to state that Israel blatantly lied about sexual abuse being committed during the October 7th raid by Hamas.

They clearly did this to inflame public opinion, and they have done all they can since then to accuse people of being antisemitic for pointing out their lies.

This is a pattern with them that keeps on repeating itself.

Just like Russia has online troll farms, so does Israel and its activists. They are organised, well funded, and don’t give a crap about the truth.

Thats why I have a problen with their behavior. They have destroyed the lives and livelihoods of honest people who pointed out their lies. And thats not ok.

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I thought about it for a while yesterday then I decided to take a page from Trump. Trump complains about Nato and defending it etc but he’s silent about the exact same things as they apply to our special ally.

Also if you look at who has gotten the most foreign aid ever from usa its our special ally. Trump is all over the place about trade with Canada but he is totally silent about when we actually give money for nothing.

So I am going to copy Trump on this one.

Cease fire announced

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-reach-ceasefire-agreement-designed-end-15-month-gaza-war-official-2025-01-15/

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Solid progress, no doubt.
But its worth remembering France signed a ceasefire with Germany in World War II on June 22, 1940. This agreement, known as the Armistice of 22 June 1940, marked France’s surrender to the German forces.

Neither side stopped shooting the other. That will take more than a signature. Lets hope the two parties can solve their problem without violence.

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A history lover like me. It amuses me a lot when comments above are basically proposing “the final solution”.

No one (on here) is proposing genocide. Saying we should eliminate Hamas is not equivalent to saying that we should eliminate Palestinians.

I would agree with the notion that we need to eliminate Hamas except for the fact that it seems inevitable that a new organization called “Bamas” will emerge with the exact same aim of destroying Israel. I don’t think you can kill that ideology.