I think we are saying the same thing…now that I fixed a typo in my earlier post
@The_Polymath the biggest issue with your stats is the source. The Palestinian media has been shown to be liars time and time again, yet you believe whatever they say.
Are they still counting hundreds of deaths from the Israeli rocket that hit the hospital? Err, sorry, I mean the Hamas rocket that landed in the parking lot.
I feel like the window keeps shifting - where we now have multiple eyewitness insider accounts of torture and targeted murders of innocents, and slowly the response is transitioning from “that’s not happening and the military is super careful” to “well sure, but Hamas does it too”.
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The sources are rock solid now. There are no excuses left.
And in terms of the other side. Here is the NYT on what actually happened:
This is why Israel has been indicted for attempted genocide and crimes against humanity by the ICC.
They gave reservists the ability to effectively kill innocent people with impunity without any repercussions from above.
These people were not military professionals. Just a bunch of people with no real clue what war was actually like. So naturally, the more psychotic and extreme elements of that group ended up committing serious attrocities.
Israel is in serious shit internationally-speaking for what they have done. This is not a minor issue.
Trump will be gone in four years, and I can assure you that the international community will keep investigating, and the officers and underlings that participated in these killings will be brought to justice one way or another.
Just like in WWII, we had trials for Nazis that commited mass murder, we are going to have trials for IDF members who also commited mass murder.
Thats fully on them.
They had a choice and chose to behave in this way. So no sympathy whatsoever.
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On the hospital thing forensic architecture did a study on what seems to have happened. Interesting reading.
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Basically, Israel lied. Nothing surprises me much anymore when it comes from them.
At this point, nothing they say can be trusted. We need to deal with their information the same way we would deal with any information coming from Hamas, or any other terrorist organisation. BS until confirmed by credible external sources.
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You mean both sides that hate each other are using propaganda and disinformation? I’m shocked.
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One side is using pistols, the other 5000 pound aerial bombs…
War criminal runs away from Brazil.
Jamaluddine said she believed the study published Thursday reflects “that the numbers put forward by the [Palestinian] health ministry are accurate,” and may be conservative as opposed to an inflation of the death toll in Gaza.
A Palestinian documentary has been shortlisted for the Oscars.
Columbia has a lot to answer for as they keep giving the pro-Zionist ex-IDF members far too much cover.
They are very good at hiding behind authority claiming that they are being discriminated against, even though they are the ones that are ultimately harrassing people.
This tenured teacher was harrassed relentlessly by pro-Israel activists after defending Palestinians from ex-IDF harrassers on campus, and she has now decided to leave Columbia.
Read what actually happened.
Students complained that she was discriminating against Jewish students. She violated school policy by retaliating against the individuals who complained. She also had made comments that were described by the former university president as “completely unacceptable and discriminatory.”
She was let go for a reason.
She was tenured so cannot be let go. As has been highlighted in many similar cases, once the pro-Israel activists and media get their claws into you they will character assasinate you on a daily basis.
So at that point, its either resign or having to do battle every day with pro-IDF zionist extremists and their supporters. She chose the former.
Stuff like this happened as well in the UK. Thankfully, we seems to have much stronger employment protections so the extremists lost when it went to the employment tribunal.
Biden has been fairly useless when it comes to Gaza.
So let see how this one pans out.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/01/13/israel-hamas-final-ceasefire-draft/
Even tenured professors can be fired if they violate school policy, as she did. She wasn’t technically fired - she resigned after meeting with the administration. But she screwed up, then went after those who complained.
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Tenured professors can be fired, it’s just a lot harder. Blatantly discriminating against Jewish students would certainly be a way, however.
I’ve lost track of the situation at Columbia, so not exactly positive what this gal did or did not do. I do recall reading some pretty vile accounts at approximately this time last year.
ETA: Oh, well blatantly violating university policies is certainly a path to involuntary termination despite tenure.
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Antisocial Media strikes again!!
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A deal just before Trump gets in would be great.
I really don’t understand what happened here. It seems to me like from the moment there was an accusation against her what happened before that did not matter anymore. Anyway it’s an eye opener and probably suggests that you should not make any personal comments. I wonder how the outcome of the situation would have been if she had just remained quiet about the incident.