# Is White Supremacy a serious threat to the US, or is saying so a "darndest thing"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Political Topics\ **Created:** [May 14, 2023, 1:03pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924 "2023-05-14T13:03:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/whiskey/32/145_2.png) [@Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Whiskey)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 11:32am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/101 "2023-05-23T11:32:28Z")
Yup, nothing to worry about with those white supremacists > **[Driver arrested and Nazi flag seized after truck crashes into barriers near...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/truck-crashes-security-barriers-white-house-driver-detained-nazi-flag-rcna85718)** > > The suspect made threatening statements about the White House at the scene, a law enforcement official told NBC News. A Nazi flag was seized by authorities at the scene. ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/102 "2023-05-23T12:07:36Z")
What’s the last time an American was attacked by a non-American terrorist? I’m sure it’s happened lately. I thought about Jamal Kashoggi being murdered abroad, but I thought he was an American citizen and he was not (permanent resident). I would still consider that terrorism, albeit via a government. I can’t find recent reporting but as of 2017, between 2008 and 2016, 58% of all terrorist threats to Americans were linked to far-right movements (largely specifically white supremacy). 32% were related to Islam, and the remainder were far-left movements. The Islamic attacks did result in a few more deaths than far-right in aggregate. However, given trends since 2017 to present, I find it plausible that white supremacy is the foremost threat to American lives. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/103 "2023-05-23T12:49:52Z")
The only groups that i am personally worried about are the right wing ones. They are the reason my temple has added enough security that we all pay a security surcharge, and need to be buzzed in for most events. ---
**Author:** ![PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/patientzombie/32/391_2.png) [@PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/PatientZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/104 "2023-05-23T13:00:21Z")
we need to be buzzed in for all events, even Friday night services. we only get security for High Holidays and advertised events (fund raisers) Luckily we have a Police station less than a block away and they position a patrol car for services, he acts as a crossing guard as well. However, I don’t believe anyone would stop a motivated gunman, as they will take out the security first. I have no fear of the Muslim’s who live in my area. ---
**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/105 "2023-05-23T13:39:29Z")
> [@PatientZombie](#): > > I have no fear of the Muslim’s who live in my area. Ditto. The only threat to my temple is from white supremacists. ---
**Author:** ![Jasper07734](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/jasper07734/32/24056_2.png) [@Jasper07734](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Jasper07734)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/106 "2023-05-23T14:04:24Z")
Every time I drive by CFH\*, I wonder if they’re practicing in there to respond to my town’s possibly first ever “Pride” event coming up. J2 is worried about the possibility of violence. It’s not my scene, but I hope everyone who chooses to participate is safe and enjoys. - _CFH = Confederate Flag House_ ---
**Author:** ![Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/whiskey/32/145_2.png) [@Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Whiskey)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/107 "2023-05-23T15:44:55Z")
Make sure to include Ranger claiming that White Supremacy is not an issue that concerns him… ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/108 "2023-05-23T16:13:35Z")
I actually looked into this a bit for some work in a consulting role. White Supremacy terrorism is a bigger threat because they commit more terrorist acts in America. Foreign terrorists are certainly scarier to most, but it’s not very easy for a scary terrorist from wherever to even get to the US. The University of Maryland has a whole database of terrorism event data I’d done some work with which bears it out: > **[Global Terrorism Database (GTD) | START.umd.edu](https://www.start.umd.edu/data-tools/GTD)** > > ABOUT GTD USING GTD DOWNLOAD GTD RESEARCH FAQ TERMS OF USE CONTACT US ---
**Author:** ![Triweasel](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/triweasel/32/159_2.png) [@Triweasel](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Triweasel)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/110 "2023-05-23T16:41:01Z")
I’m sure it’s very important to them. For some it’s their raison d’etre ---
**Author:** ![PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/patientzombie/32/391_2.png) [@PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/PatientZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/111 "2023-05-23T16:54:32Z")
> [@NormalDan](#): > > Foreign terrorists are certainly scarier to most, or because most people are less afraid of those who look like them and pray like them ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/112 "2023-05-23T19:14:01Z")
Another depressing part of that… we did some work on estimating the risk of active shooter coverage. The FBI maintains a bunch of data on that which is super convenient. Anyway, the volume of mass shootings is sufficient that you can estimate how many mass shootings you can expect to see in a year with a pretty small margin of error, law of large numbers and all that. ---
**Author:** ![PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/patientzombie/32/391_2.png) [@PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/PatientZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/113 "2023-05-23T19:20:39Z")
I am surprised, as I would think the number is trending at an increasing rate, unless that pattern is predictable too. ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/114 "2023-05-23T19:22:15Z")
This was 3 or so years ago so maybe there has been an inflection since then. From what I recall the rate had been pretty stable for many years, then there was a period of significant increase and then it was pretty stable since then. ---
**Author:** ![now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/now_samantha/32/24815_2.png) [@now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/u/now_samantha)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/115 "2023-05-23T19:25:24Z")
What’s crazy to me is that even with the massive uptick over the last couple of years (order of 50% increase over 2 years in some cities), homicide rates are still lower now than when I was a kid. ---
**Author:** ![PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/patientzombie/32/391_2.png) [@PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/PatientZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/116 "2023-05-23T19:26:00Z")
Star Wars influence? ---
**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/117 "2023-05-23T20:52:37Z")
> [@NormalDan](#): > > I actually looked into this a bit for some work in a consulting role. White Supremacy terrorism is a bigger threat because they commit more terrorist acts in America. Foreign terrorists are certainly scarier to most, but it’s not very easy for a scary terrorist from wherever to even get to the US. Perhaps it’s related to the push to onshore manufacturing - “We should be producing our own solar cells”. “We should be producing our own terrorists”. ---
**Author:** ![Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/whiskey/32/145_2.png) [@Whiskey](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Whiskey)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/118 "2023-05-23T21:04:12Z")
Well, this does align with their “America First” platform. ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_Papagiorgio](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/nick_papagiorgio/32/451_2.png) [@Nick\_Papagiorgio](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Nick_Papagiorgio)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/119 "2023-05-24T12:41:20Z")
It’s all good. I just talked to a black coworker yesterday who was reconsidering a vacation to Florida because she felt like it wouldn’t be safe for her and her children, but yeah, everything is fine. I mean 99% of white Republicans don’t think it’s a problem so basically no one is concerned about this. ---
**Author:** ![now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/now_samantha/32/24815_2.png) [@now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/u/now_samantha)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/120 "2023-05-24T14:33:42Z")
Some US data: ![image](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/4/64174850dcfbf8ffe7aa34f4d9d9e400bfbf3871.jpeg) Source (which includes link for methodology): > **[The Escalating Terrorism Problem in the United States](https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states)** > > The United States faces a growing terrorism problem that will likely worsen in the next year, particularly around the 2020 presidential election. The most significant threat likely comes from white supremacists, though anarchists and religious... ---
**Author:** ![PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/patientzombie/32/391_2.png) [@PatientZombie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/PatientZombie)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-white-supremacy-a-serious-threat-to-the-us-or-is-saying-so-a-darndest-thing/7924/121 "2023-05-24T14:37:07Z")
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