# Is Vance anti-gay (what does “anti-gay” even mean?) **URL:** \ **Category:** Political Topics\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518 "2024-07-22T19:46:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/1 "2024-07-22T19:46:11Z")
I created this thread by pulling the posts out of the “presidential election 2024” thread, because questions of “what does it mean to be anti-gay” are not relevant to that. ---
**Author:** ![stochiki](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@stochiki](https://community.goactuary.com/u/stochiki)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/2 "2024-07-15T19:50:50Z")
hates gay people? He worked for Thiel who is gay. Thiel is one of the most dangerous people out there. > **[JD Vance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Vance)** > > James David Vance (born James Donald Bowman;\[a\] August 2, 1984) is an American politician, author, and venture capitalist serving as the 50th vice president of the United States. A member of the Republican Party, he represented the state of Ohio in the United States Senate from 2023 to 2025. Vance was born and raised in Middletown, Ohio, and grew up in an unstable, low-income family. After graduating from Middletown High School, he enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps in 2003, and served as a m... Thiel created this guy. ---
**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/3 "2024-07-15T19:53:44Z")
> [@stochiki](#): > > hates gay people? He worked for Thiel who is gay. Well he’s on record as “one man one woman” so I would not count him as an ally. 🤷‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![stochiki](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@stochiki](https://community.goactuary.com/u/stochiki)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/4 "2024-07-15T19:57:06Z")
Peter Thiel perfected the “fake it till you make it” and this is no different. They will do and say anything to get elected. ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/5 "2024-07-15T19:57:33Z")
He’s definitely on record as opposing gay marriage. I believe he is also in the group calling for an end of “no fault divorce” And he has introduce anti-trans legislation. So I think it’s a fair inference that he’s not a friend to the LGBTQ+ community. ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/6 "2024-07-15T20:14:10Z")
> [@stochiki](#): > > Thiel created this guy. But, but, he has friends who are gay!! ---
**Author:** ![stochiki](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@stochiki](https://community.goactuary.com/u/stochiki)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/7 "2024-07-15T20:29:52Z")
I’m saying that the guy isn’t _truly_ anti-gay. Just like Trump isn’t really conservative. ---
**Author:** ![now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/now_samantha/32/24815_2.png) [@now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/u/now_samantha)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/8 "2024-07-15T20:32:13Z")
I don’t know what Vance’s personal beliefs are, but his legislative positions are hugely anti LGBTQ. Maybe he is ok with LGBTQ people and is a cynical asshole, maybe he hates LGBTQ people and the job was a paycheck. Either way his positions suck. The Bay Area, btw, is huge, with most of the tech firms being south of the city, meaning that you can live in the decidely less queer San Jose. And there are a ton of people in tech who are anti-LGBTQ and / or misogynistic. ---
**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/9 "2024-07-15T20:32:14Z")
Eh, Trump may have paid for a few abortions in his day, but I’d still call him anti-abortion given that he appoints pro-life judges / justices. I think someone who tolerates a gay boss while simultaneously saying that same sex marriage is wrong is anti-gay. 🤷‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![Funemployed](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/funemployed/32/417_2.png) [@Funemployed](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Funemployed)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/10 "2024-07-15T20:34:48Z")
Ahhh, yes… the ol’ “If you’re not an ally, you’re a hater” mentality. You’re GOOD or you’re EVIL. RED or BLUE. BLACK or WHITE. ---
**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/11 "2024-07-15T20:35:23Z")
Also I’m reminded of the racists who acknowledge that there are a few “good ones” out there. Maybe Vance generally hates gay people but thinks Thiel is “one of the good ones”… no clue. ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/12 "2024-07-15T20:36:30Z")
I’m against rights for LGBTQ people but I’m not a hater! I just don’t want you to be able to get married or be in the military or be protected from discrimination. Don’t get mad, it’s not like I called for you to be rounded up and executed! I just want to remove your rights is all! Vance has said he would have voted against the Respect for Marriage Act and has repeatedly stated that we need more child-producing marriages. > **[Vance would vote against codifying right to marriage for same-sex couples •...](https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/07/28/vance-would-vote-against-codifying-right-to-marriage-for-same-sex-couples/)** > > Republican U.S. Senate nominee J.D. Vance would oppose legislation to codify the right to marriage for same-sex couples. ---
**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/13 "2024-07-15T20:38:51Z")
Eh, in 2024 if you’re opposed to legal same sex marriage I think you’re anti-gay. If you were opposed to gay marriage in 1996 and have since modified your views, that’s different. If JD Vance started wearing pride gear and celebrating Obergefell tomorrow I’d reconsider my “anti-gay” label, but I’m not holding my breath. ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/14 "2024-07-15T20:39:56Z")
> [@Rastiln](#): > > Vance has said he would have voted against the Respect for Marriage Act and has repeatedly stated that we need more child-producing marriages. Well, the gay marriages can soak up all those unwanted babies born due to anti-abortion laws. Or do anti-abortion advocates simply want unwanted babies to live their miserable lives? ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/15 "2024-07-15T20:40:34Z")
Are they the right kind of unwanted babies? ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/16 "2024-07-15T20:41:17Z")
🤣 @ Vance approving of gay people adopting ---
**Author:** ![stochiki](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@stochiki](https://community.goactuary.com/u/stochiki)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/17 "2024-07-15T20:41:35Z")
You’re not making any sense. Peter Thiel supports Vance completely. He funded Vance’s political career. So according to your logic, Peter thiel is anti-gay. ---
**Author:** ![Funemployed](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/funemployed/32/417_2.png) [@Funemployed](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Funemployed)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/18 "2024-07-15T20:44:15Z")
Even “anti-gay” is not the same as “hates gays” ---
**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/19 "2024-07-15T20:44:19Z")
> [@stochiki](#): > > according to your logic, Peter thiel is anti-gay. Well I wouldn’t claim he’s anti-gay, but he’s certainly _extremely_ tolerant of anti-gay people. ---
**Author:** ![now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/now_samantha/32/24815_2.png) [@now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/u/now_samantha)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518/20 "2024-07-15T20:44:44Z")
There are indeed gay people who are anti-gay rights. I don’t understand it, but they exist and aren’t that rare. [Next page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/is-vance-anti-gay-what-does-anti-gay-even-mean/9518.md?page=2)