# Innumeracy **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [November 17, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153 "2020-11-17T04:32:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/soyleche/32/42_2.png) [@soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/u/soyleche)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/1 "2020-11-17T04:32:04Z")
Bringing back a classic AO thread. Granted - this isn’t really innumeracy, but still… One of the charter schools in my area has several campuses. They have a “COVID-19 Dashboard” where they show the numbers of cases for the different campuses. The dashboard has 4 columns: Campus, Active Cases, Percent of Campus Population, and Rate per 100 Individuals. Not surprisingly - the 3rd and 4th columns have the exact same numbers in them. ---
**Author:** ![Vorian\_Atreides](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/vorian_atreides/32/65623_2.png) [@Vorian\_Atreides](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Vorian_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/2 "2020-11-17T04:47:12Z")
I nominate all the players projecting probabilities of a deck in the Secret Hitler game. Especially . . . S.Morgenstern. ---
**Author:** ![S.Morgenstern](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/s.morgenstern/32/29540_2.png) [@S.Morgenstern](https://community.goactuary.com/u/S.Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/3 "2020-11-17T14:10:40Z")
HEY! 👹 🏮 🩸 ---
**Author:** ![SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveWhite)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/4 "2020-11-17T14:15:49Z")
> [@soyleche](#): > > The dashboard has 4 columns: Campus, Active Cases, Percent of Campus Population, and Rate per 100 Individuals. > > Not surprisingly - the 3rd and 4th columns have the exact same numbers in them. With a thread title Innumeracy, it is a surprise they have the exact same numbers. ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2020, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/5 "2020-11-20T18:21:28Z")
[https://community-new.goactuary.com/t/evidence-of-manipulation-in-vote-tabulation-statistical-analysis-and-signals/1234](https://community-new.goactuary.com/t/evidence-of-manipulation-in-vote-tabulation-statistical-analysis-and-signals/1234) Good place to put this. ---
**Author:** ![Klaymen](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/klaymen/32/194_2.png) [@Klaymen](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Klaymen)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/6 "2021-02-02T22:07:39Z")
From a Walmart breakfast danish container: ![IMG_20210202_091248443](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/ae7a17abe0f77b00dc6b8f250a0c8741d4036f49.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/7 "2021-02-02T22:09:23Z")
😆 This is why my parents would have either my sister or me split the thing in half and the other one got to choose their half, otherwise you get these kinds of 16/37 halves ---
**Author:** ![SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveWhite)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/8 "2021-02-02T22:37:57Z")
rounding ---
**Author:** ![Klaymen](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/klaymen/32/194_2.png) [@Klaymen](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Klaymen)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/9 "2021-02-03T03:15:05Z")
> [@SteveWhite](#): > > rounding yes, if you took a 1/2 danish and rounded it by removing the corners, you might lower it to 160 calories. ---
**Author:** ![Breadmaker](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/breadmaker/32/83065_2.png) [@Breadmaker](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Breadmaker)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/10 "2021-02-03T03:31:34Z")
The sodium counts are 160/370 as well. 🤨 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Celalta](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/celalta/32/302_2.png) [@Celalta](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Celalta)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 3:39am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/11 "2021-02-03T03:39:27Z")
They’re acknowledging they’re excessively dry and thus 14% crumb loss if cut in half? ---
**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 4:09am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/12 "2021-02-03T04:09:04Z")
Do you expend 50 calories trying to cut the damn thing in half? ---
**Author:** ![Klaymen](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/klaymen/32/194_2.png) [@Klaymen](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Klaymen)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 5:47am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/13 "2021-03-05T05:47:02Z")
From Glassdoor (not actuarial salaries) ![glassdoor](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/4eeb3d1adfcfad5f3d6dd50aff8e9554d686eb17.png) ---
**Author:** ![Vorian\_Atreides](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/vorian_atreides/32/65623_2.png) [@Vorian\_Atreides](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Vorian_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/14 "2021-03-05T13:50:55Z")
#1. lol @ the “top end of the scale” is only $149k. #2. Let the average burger flipper see this and see how long it takes for this number to drop . . . ---
**Author:** ![soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/soyleche/32/42_2.png) [@soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/u/soyleche)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/15 "2021-03-20T15:45:04Z")
> **[Black women have a 90% wealth gap. Goldman Sachs is investing billions to...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/10/investing/black-women-wealth-gap-goldman-sachs/index.html)** > > America’s Black women hold more than 90% less wealth than American White men, Goldman Sachs revealed in a new report. > [@](#): > > America’s Black women hold more than 90% less wealth than American White men, Goldman Sachs revealed in a new report. Maybe not in emerald - I can’t see anywhere where the way they calculated the number is described - but “more than 90% less” is a ridiculously convoluted way of presenting any information. I’m not entirely sure what it even means. ---
**Author:** ![Celalta](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/celalta/32/302_2.png) [@Celalta](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Celalta)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/16 "2021-03-20T17:54:02Z")
It probably means that the average wealth for Black women is less than 10% of the average wealth for White men in America, but more than 90% less is a more compelling phrase than the other because people are used to discount language from retail, half off, 75% off, etc, so the wording leans into that understanding, imo. I’m “more” interested in their definition of American/America 😉 (only interested enough to comment, not actually click and read, I’m definitely doing the “didn’t even read the article, just the title” commenting here). It’s unlikely to be all of the americas, and most likely to be U.S. but it’s also ambiguous. ---
**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/17 "2021-03-20T18:01:11Z")
> [@Klaymen](#): > > From Glassdoor (not actuarial salaries) > > ![glassdoor](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/4eeb3d1adfcfad5f3d6dd50aff8e9554d686eb17.png) I’m guessing that the people who have no additional pay are not part of the additional pay average but they are in the base pay and total pay. Which is, of course, preposterous. They should be averaged into the additional pay at $0. But this error would explain those numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Actuary321)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/18 "2021-03-22T15:57:44Z")
Yeah, because aren’t most people’s wealth at least more than 90% less than American White Men? BTW, they use median rather than mean wealth in determining this. ---
**Author:** ![Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/mathman/32/14042_2.png) [@Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Mathman)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/19 "2021-03-23T16:21:16Z")
Powell now says that no reasonable person believed her. > **[Sidney Powell argues in new court filing that no reasonable people would...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/22/politics/sidney-powell-dominion-lawsuit-election-fraud/index.html)** > > Right-wing lawyer Sidney Powell is claiming in a new court filing that reasonable people wouldn’t have believed as fact her assertions of fraud after the 2020 presidential election. ---
**Author:** ![SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveWhite)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153/20 "2021-03-23T16:28:31Z")
That argument would be especially interesting if same court had to determine whehter Trump believed her. [Next page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/innumeracy/1153.md?page=2)