ICE, ICE baby (and CBP stuff too)

I would think allowing the lawyer and wife of a detainee to know what part of the country he is in is part of basic due process.

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Khalil was also arrested a few hours after giving an interview in which he said he was worried that he was being targeted for talking to the media.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-authorities-arrest-palestinian-student-protester-columbia-university-students-2025-03-09/

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I wonder if Neil Young is working on an updated version of his song Ohio. Just a matter of time until Trump brings out the troops to quell the protests.

I don’t understand why the right wing so often seems to push for lie detector tests when they’re objectively unreliable. I guess it’s just scary-sounding to the ignorant?

Right-wing tend to be big on loyalty tests

So this type of thing does not surprise me.

John Oliver’s latest episode focuses on ICE detention.

However, it does look like HBO’s shifted back to waiting a few days before releasing episodes to YouTube (past couple of weeks, the episodes were up the morning after…)

The Khalil arrest is so bad that Ann Coulter disagrees with it.

“There’s almost no one I don’t want to deport, but unless they’ve committed a crime, isn’t this a violation of the First Amendment?” Coulter said on the social platform X in response to a report from the New York Post.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5187164-ann-coulter-arrest-columbia-protester-free-speech/

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wow thats a first coming from Coulter

She basically sits at the more extreme end of the right-wing

People are starting to really become fearful because when the State decides to come after you…

Could happen to anyone now that doesn’t tow the party line from the WH.

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Do you have the same first amendment rights as a green card holder vs citizen?

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Of course. Nothing in the amendment refers to being a citizen.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Also says “Congress shall…” This ain’t Congress.

This group, Beter, even wants actual US citizens deported:

When reached for comment by The Hill, Betar said in an email that they “confirm we provide information on jihadis.”

“We also believe naturalized citizens will also soon face consequences as our president has said,” they continued.

Betar later reached out to The Hill again by email, saying that “Where Ms. Coulter is wrong is that one who supports terror is committing a crime.”

The very support for Hamas is grounds for deportation. Free speech is not supporting terror. This is the first of many Mahmoud’s we expect will be deported,” they added.

Watch out, @The_Polymath. Even YOU might get deported!
(Yes, I know you are not in the USA. That is the joke.)

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Deportation in absentia?

Its exactly due to groups like Betar that we protested en masse over here in the UK.

It doesn’t even have to be about Gaza/Hamas/Israel.

When you have vigilante/nationalist groups like that operating freely you end up in a quasi-police state where people are terrified of speaking up.

A bit like China really.

Google suggests there is a, albeit narrow, legal protection gap. Unsurprisingly in this case it certainly doesn’t seem like Trump’s A team operated within those lines though so I imagine it’ll be tossed once a judge is involved.

I think it depends on which SCOTUS justice you ask.

As a practical matter, the State Department has broad authority to deny lawful access of non-nationals to the country in the interests of “security”. You have freedom of speech, but unless you’re a citizen or other national, you don’t have a guarantee of access to the country.

Apparently the current practice is now that if you show up at the border with imperfect TN paperwork you go into detention, rather than simply being denied entry.

The frequency of that is definitely increasing.

There was a German woman who also got detained, as well as a Welsh woman from the UK.

They ended up spending weeks in detention before being deported.

The whole thing is absurd.

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However the private companies that run the detention facilities are making money, and that’s all that matters, right? /s

(Caution: video below NSFW due to language.)