# I don't get San Francisco

**URL:** <https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667>\
**Category:** Political Topics\
**Created:** [December 5, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667 "2023-12-05T15:52:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bro](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/bro/32/81473_2.png) [@Bro](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Bro)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/21 "2023-12-07T00:03:11Z")

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basically, the extra tax revenue gets squandered in additional layers of bureaucracy.

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**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:04am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/22 "2023-12-07T07:04:41Z")

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Thanks for this. I wonder, if hybrid work stays in place (come to work 2-3 days a week), some of those 9 people that missed out will put up with a longer commute so the demand might lessen a little.

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**Author:** ![Papasmurf](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/90ced4/32.png) [@Papasmurf](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Papasmurf)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/23 "2023-12-07T14:41:55Z")

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After living in Chicago, am shocked to see IL having one of the lowest homeless rates

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**Author:** ![Bro](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/bro/32/81473_2.png) [@Bro](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Bro)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/24 "2023-12-07T14:52:09Z")

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I’ll argue that 2-3 days / week is not “hybrid”. I’d put that as still in-person. Because you need to be within reasonable commute (60-90 minutes) for those several days / week. Doesn’t really change where you get to reside, just which roads you drive on.

“hybrid” is more like “live in Pierre, North Dakota and work remotely 7 weeks in a row, then come to the Asheville office for a week.” So your permanent residence _can be_ outside of the metropolitan area of the office (but doesn’t have to be!).

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**Author:** ![Bro](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/bro/32/81473_2.png) [@Bro](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Bro)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/25 "2023-12-07T19:46:41Z")

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> **[San Francisco’s old housing policy regime was a world-historical failure....](https://benjaminschneider.substack.com/p/san-franciscos-old-housing-policy)**
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> The city is stepping into the urban planning unknown, with the rest of California following close behind.

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**Author:** ![tommie.frazier](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@tommie.frazier](https://community.goactuary.com/u/tommie.frazier)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/26 "2023-12-07T20:52:19Z")

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> [@Bro](#):
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> “live in Pierre, North Dakota

south is my guess, not north

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**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/27 "2023-12-08T13:52:12Z")

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Who needs two Dakotas anyway

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**Author:** ![colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/colonelsmoothie/32/136_2.png) [@colonelsmoothie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/colonelsmoothie)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/28 "2023-12-08T14:26:44Z")

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That’s what I was thinking, we can combine the Dakotas and add Puerto Rico to maintain 50 states and save the expense of printing new flags or having people forget the number of states since 51 is harder to remember than 50.

Alternatively we can reunite the Virginias although the language divergence, economic issues, unfinished state of war and nuclear war rhetoric by the north from that fat dictator of theirs may hinder things.

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**Author:** ![SredniVashtar](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/srednivashtar/32/2894_2.png) [@SredniVashtar](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SredniVashtar)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/29 "2023-12-08T15:54:56Z")

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1 Leave Georgia.  
2 Go to SF.  
3 Sit?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/rTVjnBo96Ug/maxresdefault.jpg "Otis Redding - (Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTVjnBo96Ug)

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**Author:** ![Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/maphistos_sidekick/32/84973_2.png) [@Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Maphistos_Sidekick)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/30 "2023-12-08T16:02:35Z")

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> [@NormalDan](#):
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> Who needs two Dakotas anyway

The primary reason we have two Dakotas is that the GOP of that era, aware that the Dakota Territory was inhabited with individuals likely to vote Republican, decided they wanted an extra 3 votes in Congress and the Electoral College.

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**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/31 "2023-12-08T16:40:23Z")

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> [@colonelsmoothie](#):
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> Alternatively we can reunite the Virginias although the language divergence, economic issues, unfinished state of war and nuclear war rhetoric by the north from that fat dictator of theirs may hinder things.

That would mean the country roads wouldn’t take you home anymore.

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**Author:** ![now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/now_samantha/32/24815_2.png) [@now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/u/now_samantha)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/32 "2023-12-08T17:42:45Z")

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That’s ok, the song was written about Maryland anyways. They just changed the name of the state to West Virginia to make the rhythm better – the song writers never went to West Virginia.

> **[The Story Behind John Denver's 'Take Me Home, Country Roads'](https://www.countrythangdaily.com/take-me-home-country-roads/)**
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> John Denver’s ‘Take Me Home, Country Roads’ was written by Billy Danoff and Taffy Nivert, who had actually never been to the state.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/33 "2024-07-18T02:30:20Z")

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Not exactly…

> **[North Dakota and South Dakota: Why Are There Two?](https://time.com/4377423/dakota-north-south-history-two/)**
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> Because different population sizes, trade routes and politics meant the two halves didn't really like each other

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/34 "2024-07-18T02:31:25Z")

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Dang it… why is this thread mixed in with my “latest”? 🤷‍♀️

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**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 3:01am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/35 "2024-07-18T03:01:09Z")

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I used to love those threads (maybe on AO or some other forum) where someone was fresh out of college and asking for advice and somebody resurrected the thread 12 years later to answer.

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**Author:** ![FormerActuary](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@FormerActuary](https://community.goactuary.com/u/FormerActuary)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/36 "2024-07-18T13:11:55Z")

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This chart gives the numbers by state. I think it would be better to see it by city.  
I did some quick searching, but am seeing huge differences in some of the reporting. The Chicago Coalition for the Homeless says that there are 68k people experiencing homelessness in Chicago in 2024. But the PIT count from a survey gave a number of 6,139. I get that one is Point in Time and one is aggregate, I just didn’t expect that large of a swing.  
I did find one difference in how they count it - the Coalition includes those who don’t have their own homes but did find someone to stay with (family, friend, etc.) The PIT number (which is the official number from the city) excludes those people.

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**Author:** ![The\_Polymath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_polymath/32/83081_2.png) [@The\_Polymath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_Polymath)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 10:24am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/37 "2024-09-02T10:24:49Z")

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Seems SF is now taxing empty residential units.

They are doing something similar over here in the UK to try to stop people just sitting on property and not renting it out.

 ![FB_IMG_1725272548849](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/3X/c/f/cf3d295763e9332bc179fb336c483550fc5737b9.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/maphistos_sidekick/32/84973_2.png) [@Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Maphistos_Sidekick)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/38 "2024-09-02T11:39:54Z")

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I believe Vancouver, BC has been doing this for several years.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/39 "2024-09-02T13:28:49Z")

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I don’t know about San Francisco specifically, but where I live the problem is corporations buying up many single family homes.

So exempting single family homes would do almost nothing.

Exempting people who own two or fewer housing units would make far more sense than exempting single family homes and duplexes.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/i-dont-get-san-francisco/8667/40 "2024-09-02T13:30:38Z")

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Oops, that reply was to Poly’s post. I don’t know why it’s showing Former Actuary or how to fix it.

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