Yeah.. I see Vaccine Passports working in the US about as well as those contact tracing apps they developed. Enough Americans don’t want “the government tracking them” that it just won’t work. Works great in China though.
I opted out of the contact tracing app, and I will probably opt out of a vaccine passport thing.
After the vaccine has been widely available for some time (maybe July 1 or thereabouts) I think we’ll just have to accept that we can’t get to zero cases and get back to pre-COVID life. We aren’t going to overwhelm hospitals with 80% of 65+ vaccinated. Sure cases will still be here, but this virus isn’t going away in the world.
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Well, it’s always been about saving lives and not overfilling hospitals.
I think we’ll get to a point in the future where only people age X or older, health care workers, teachers, and the immuno-compromised will get vaccinated regularly for this and its variants. Like flu or shingles or TB, in their own ways.
This has a high enough fatality rate that I suspect they will try to go the smallpox route and get rid of it entirely, but that was a 20 year concerted effort, so this virus is with us for a generation or two.
Not “always”
Flattening the curve - Wikipedia
This is entirely reasonable, but depends a good deal on whether the virus can effectively hide in animal populations. It very likely came from an animal source, but still too soon to know how much like the flu viruses it will be.
We only know the fatality rate on first exposure. The fatality rate for reinfection may look like other coronaviruses.
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My guess is that instead of eradication, treatment will get better and it won’t be as crucial to get rid of it entirely.
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Really good video about why eradicating this virus is highly unlikely. The short answer is because there are animal vectors and people with no symptoms can spread the disease.
It’s more like polio. Most people don’t get very sick, but some suffer debilitating lifetime (?) effects and a few die.
But it almost certainly has animals reservoirs, people can have a contagious case without having noticable symptoms, and I see no hope of eradicating it.
I keep hearing more and more stories that explain the spread of the virus in my state. People who had symptoms but never got tested even though they believed they might have Covid. In some cases, just testing meant they had to take off work for 2 weeks, and in others (teens), being tested would be a hassle for their family and they did not want to be the cause of that.
And, shit like this still happens, 'cause Murica:
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https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1379189546915672065
Watch out Texas.
More like Globe Death Field
I’m genuinely curious what percentage of the unmasked folks are vaccinated.
If you’re vaccinated then how risky is an outdoor event, even if you are in close proximity of a lot of people?
that’s kind of what I was wondering too. Like do i need to avoid super spreader events once the vaccine fully kicks in? if so, what the hell is the point?
Once I’m 2 weeks post vaccine I’m not caring about what I’m doing. 50,000 unmasked people packed into an indoor convention? Sure I’ll be there.
Well there is still some risk of vaccinated folks catching a mild case of Covid.
But it seems like the combination of being vaccinated AND at an outdoor event must be pretty low risk.
Granted, baseball games last 3 hours or more, so that ups the risk factor, as does the number of people and the proximity.
do we need to be super fearful of a mild case of covid? i hope not. i can get a mild case of a number of different viruses. that doesn’t seem like a reason to avoid crowds.
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I guess the bigger risk would be then spreading it?