adults don’t bowl or do any of those things?
I’ve been looking for zogs bowling to start again post covid because I miss it…
I think most people recognize that prolonged school closures (which went on for much longer than initially anticipated) had significant negative effects and keeping kids in school is important for mental, physical, and educational health. Pretty sure that’s why the American Academy of Pediatrics is recommending universal masking at school and vaccination for those able to receive it. However, it seems you disagree with both of these.
Also things aren’t serene on my high horse.
Sure they do, but…
So I don’t think it harms us as much. But it certainly still harms us.
Except for when it isn’t.
I ended up backspacing some snarky comments. Maybe I’m too close. Maybe you’re too remote. Either way, I don’t think continuing to engage will be fruitful for anyone.
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those kids can bowl when covid is over just like i can.
this just tells you that being an adult sucks, and not much else.
If we actually cared about having our kids safely in school, where they need to be, we would have acted like we cared.
It’s just another whataboutism. We don’t actually care about anyone but ourselves.
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Who’s “we” in this sentence? I certainly don’t think it’s fair to assume that everyone doesn’t care. A lot of people care a great deal, myself included.
If you mean it as an indictment on people who refuse(d) to wear masks or social distance or get vaccinated then I would agree with that. I don’t think it’s fair to lump all of society into that bucket though.
Well it sounds like you disagree with my stated opinion that
yes, i do. also, many of these children have siblings.
And many of them don’t. Also, playing with siblings is not the same thing as learning to cultivate friendships with people who are not related to you.
Anyway, I’m willing to agree to disagree if you are.
I wasn’t good at that even without a pandemic, so whatever on that.
Yep, ‘we’ would have opened schools.
Some of ‘us’ did that, while others let teachers unions & adult fears hold ‘our’ kids hostage.
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FL is really putting in work lately. About 88% more new cases than CA despite having 54% of CA’s population. What’s going on there? It was my understanding they’ve hardly taken any precautions except maybe in the earliest days. People just getting bored of COVID or did they recently remove a precaution?
Ah.
“Gov. Ron DeSantis suspended local COVID-19 emergency orders May 3 and signed a proposal lawmakers approved that limits the government’s ability to impose mask requirements and other social distancing measures used to combat the coronavirus. A state of emergency expired June 26.”
So it followed suspension of local powers to combat it. Hypothesis: the vaccine beat out an increase in unvaccinated cases for a while, and now that people aren’t rushing to get the vaccine we’re seeing the lagged increasing effect.
This is what you get with delta. I don’t think any state has a vaccination rate high enough to avoid this. It may be happening more quickly in places with lower vaccine rates, but it is here for everyone to deal with.
I know that I’m late to this particular train of thought, but…
The above highlights, I think, one of the big challenges that public health and government officials face daily…especially with the pandemic:
People are idiots.
People in general are unable to process complex/nuanced information.
People are going to do what they want to do, others be d*mned.
Many individuals are exceptions to this rule, of course, but people in general are idiots.
The powers that be have been faced with the challenge of trying to attempting to keep the pandemic from running amok, and with being asked “what can we do”, in the face of incomplete/evolving information and the above-listed realities of human nature.
So, to do the little they can, the powers that be are pressured into giving guidance that may not be perfectly effective, or that may have already been supplanted by new knowledge.
Consider how much of resistance to masking uses “but they didn’t require masks at the start” as an excuse. Folks don’t remember that part of the reasons masks were discouraged at the start was because supplies of effective masks were extremely limited, and because too many ordinary people tend to wear masks in ways that aren’t optimally effective.
The masking policy changed because people were unable to stay isolated (for various reasons), and even minimal/limited protection was sought to modify the pandemic’s trajectory. Even cloth masks were acknowledged as “not very effective, but better than nothing if it’s all you can do”.
Similarly, I think we’ve known that the 6-foot/2-meter rule isn’t perfect since it was issued. However, we needed some guidance early on, despite limited scientific data…and the idea of changing message aggravates the potential for compliance, and a better 3/4/5-meter separation is less realistic to achieve.
I don’t envy the job public health officials have had over the past year and a half. People are idiots.
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And some of ‘us’ did everything we could to rail against masks and other mitigation efforts based on what we found on on Twitter feed.
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This is really what is going on when you have someone like Tucker Carlson telling people to “question everything.” If you find that rabbit hole to hide in, your behavior is justified, and you wear your free thinking badge with pride.
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Even leaving Fox News / American political polarization out of the equation…I bet that if you could objectively measure the relevant characteristics for particular groups, you would find an inverse relationship between “cultural egocentrism” and “pandemic severity”.
Yep, just some randos on Twitter
https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1420733569870307329?s=19