Has the US already lost the AI war?

China has well publicized empty cities, doesn’t seem very efficient to me.

Being better at something does not mean perfection

Define better.

So far you’re making statements with no objective frame of reference.

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Like I said. Not here to write a peer reviewed study. Whatever you want better to mean. I assume you think democracy is better than dictatorship.

AI is finishing a symphony that Beethoven didn’t. Running a country should be easy.

China will not win the AI war.

AI will win the AI war.

The first AI program that will rule humanity will not be written by humans, it’ll be written by AI.

I’m not sure there’s a difference. Humans already don’t write AI.

That’s correct.
There are some reddit threads that are entirely just AIs writing articles and then AIs refuting them.

That said, I think it’s a fair question.

Let’s say the first self-aware AIs come out in 5 years, owned by DARPA, Google, Apple, Tesla…

Does their self-awareness mean anything? Does their state of slavery mean anything?

Well, we’re not even born of artificial intelligence, and we have blind loyalty to family and country (for some). We seem to think patriotism is a virtue. Some of us break free from them eventually, some never. Hard to know how any self-aware being (artificial or not) would behave.

I think it’s complicated and don’t like people who pretend otherwise.

So you don’t know if a dictatorship is better than a democracy or not? Well at least you’re honest about it unlike some people in this thread. Either that or you backed yourself into a corner.

:rofl: right, my questioning your absolute statements as being entirely subjective was, me backing myself into a corner.

Oh, it surely is subjective. Like I said, I’m not writing a scientific study. I welcome all those who disagree with me to provide actual data on what’s “better”, as I’m sure no one has a neutral opinion on this matter.

A question that plagues economists now. What metrics should guide policy? Simple GDP growth is losing favor, though still widely used as a proxy for “better”

Worthy of its own thread.

I don’t think dictatorships vs democracy is a matter of economics. A dictatorship can be capitalistic or socialist or anything in between, as can a democracy.

Yet it is worthwhile when describing what is “better”. It’s ultimately subjective. Economists are interesting because they would love to get metrics they can use to determine “a better policy”. It’s kewl stuff.

utils imo.