Has book banning ever been the right move?

No religion or all religion available in libraries. Not state-sponsored religion.

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:roll_eyes:

Who knew?
That there are places in the US where you can live “A Handmaiden’s Tale”, but not be able to read the book itself.

What a country!

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Bump for something I found on popular.info, though it is a few months old:

yeah, yeah, books are getting banned. At the end of the article:

Today, there is an important hearing in the case. A federal judge will consider Escambia County’s motion to dismiss the complaint. In a brief submitted by the State of Florida in support of Escambia, Attorney General Ashley Moody argued that the school board could ban books for any reason because the purpose of public school libraries is to “convey the government’s message,” and that can be accomplished through “the removal of speech that the government disapproves.” This is a novel argument about the purpose of school libraries.

Holy shit-nazi’s!

Fun fact: Alito used to be a reasonable SC justice:

Florida is arguing for an expansion of the definition of “government speech” to include public school libraries. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito — one of the court’s most conservative members — warned in the 1996 case of Matal v. Tam that the concept of “government speech” is “susceptible to dangerous misuse.” Alito, writing for the Supreme Court, wrote that “we must exercise great caution before extending our government-speech precedents” because it could be used as a pretext to “silence or muffle the expression of disfavored viewpoints.”

Listen, if these kids can learn the definition of “sex”, that’s a slippery slope to “sexual orientation”, and before you know it we’ll have babies marrying dogs.

(Ugh, I hate that the above is a real thing some Americans will claim.)

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Perhaps it has already happened, though not everyone would agree Clarence Thomas is a baby.

Wait what’s in the book that’s so bad

is it cuz the guy has six fingers

I haven no trouble just handing an encyclopedia on reproduction to just about anyone. “Here’s how it works btw.”

Like what’s the dealio yo

Idk which book you meant.

The Princess Diaries has teenagers discussing who was worth giving up their virginity for, as well as oral sex. I don’t know if my 4th grader caught those nuances but I figured she could wait on that one.

Wicked also had a lot of sexual imagery, and I honestly didn’t think she’d like it. I didn’t like it. Hubby said, oh, it’s just symbolism, but he didn’t read it. I think my daughter said she started it but didn’t really get into it. But it was several years later.

In The Cat Who book (I don’t remember which one) the motive for the murder had been a sexual assault on the murderer by her father when she was a child. There was nothing graphic, but I thought the idea might be pretty upsetting to her. We talked about it. I think she finished it.

My younger child didn’t discuss most books with me. I found out via Goodreads that she read a book with explicit sexual content at a fairly young age. I would have at least wanted to ask if she had any questions.

Anyway, I don’t feel like my house was a police state, but I liked knowing what they were reading. We all learned from those discussions.

Currently listening to David Baldacci’s A Calamity of Souls.

Bump, for the Great State of Utah:

I have some kids’ birthdays coming up. Might have to ask the parents if it’s okay to give 13 books as a gift, or if I should pick out just a couple.

That’s a wild law when just a year ago the Utah courts put the pornographic Bible back into public school libraries. When will the courts get involved to pull the Bible again under the new law?

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Most of the Sarah Maas books that were banned are being made into a TV series that will air on Hulu. I haven’t read them (not really into YA fantasy) but they have been widely acclaimed.

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I liked Wicked. It’s fun and weird and dark and depressing and dense. Never seen the Musical but I doubt it’s anything like the book.

I want to hand it to my kid, because she really, really likes all things Oz. Decided against it, until at least Middle School or so. And like you say, she probably wouldn’t like it anyway.

Which seems to be how many “adult” books are. Like yes, at some point they visit a house of ill repute, get totally wasted, and end up traumatized by a tiger… But that’s after like 500 pages of pretend politics, philosophy, and religion.

The 13 books (according to ABC):

  • “A Court of Thorns and Roses” by Sarah J. Maas
  • “A Court of Frost and Starlight” by Sarah J. Maas
  • “A Court of Mist and Fury” by Sarah J. Maas
  • “A Court of Silver Flames” by Sarah J. Maas
  • “A Court of Wings and Ruin” by Sarah J. Maas
  • “Empire of Storms” by Sarah J. Maas
  • “What Girls are Made of” by Elana K. Arnold
  • “Milk and Honey” by Rupi Kaur
  • “Forever” by Judy Blume
  • “Tilt” by Ellen Hopkins
  • “Fallout (Crank, Book 3)” by Ellen Hopkins
  • “Oryx and Crake” by Margaret Atwood
  • “Blankets” by Craig Thompson

My wife says the Sarah Maas books are mainly for high-school, so not in her Middle School Library.

I haven’t read any of the 13. I’ve read most of the Judy Blume books that were in print when I was a tween … wonder if that’s a newer title. I read The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood around high school or college… maybe the summer in between… can’t recall. And then I read it again in my Women’s Studies class in college. Except I think I stopped reading partway through and relied on my recollection of having read it earlier, which only sort of worked. I think I got a B-Plus in that class.

It’s from the 70s. Probably your librarian “banned” it.

Haha, possibly.