# Gaetz to McCarthy: Drop Dead **URL:** \ **Category:** Political Topics\ **Created:** [October 3, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458 "2023-10-03T19:15:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ted\_Hoffman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/ted_hoffman/32/83127_2.png) [@Ted\_Hoffman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Ted_Hoffman)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/1 "2023-10-03T19:15:11Z")
I figure Speaker II: Election Bugaboo should have its own thread. The motion to table Gaetz’s motion to vacate the chair fails 218-208. 11 Republicans join all the Democrats in voting to kill the motion to table. Not helping McCarthy: his ability to say the stupidest, most contradictory things belittling Rep. Tim Burchett (TN 2) for praying on the decision. “Debate” now underway. Gaetz gets 30 minutes to advocate for tossing McCarthy overboard while possibly using the time to woo underage females with his limited command of the English language; someone TBD will speak on behalf of McCarthy. TBD: whether McCarthy survives this, whether he can do so without help from the Democrats, and how many rounds it takes to elect a new speaker. Last time was 15 rounds; I’ll take “over 15” here, please. ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/2 "2023-10-03T20:30:46Z")
Dysfunctional clowns gonna dysfunct. ---
**Author:** ![Ted\_Hoffman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/ted_hoffman/32/83127_2.png) [@Ted\_Hoffman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Ted_Hoffman)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/3 "2023-10-03T20:50:21Z")
House of Representatives to McCarthy: ![joaquin phoenix thumbs down gif | WiffleGif](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/3X/4/8/486562db77007ce67bbf02a856452c1680519e13.gif) ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/4 "2023-10-03T20:55:13Z")
LOL ---
**Author:** ![The\_Polymath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_polymath/32/83081_2.png) [@The\_Polymath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_Polymath)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/5 "2023-10-03T20:55:45Z")
Sayonara. Another one bites the dust… ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/6 "2023-10-03T20:56:29Z")
> ## House is now in recess following vote ousting McCarthy as speaker > > The US House of Representatives is now in recess following [the historic vote](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/matt-gaetz-kevin-mccarthy-house-speakership-10-03-23/h_cea529c51c6d4df49955b7d9c6530c66) to remove Republican Rep. Kevin McCarthy as speaker. > > No House speaker has ever before been ousted through the passage of a resolution to remove them. > > The House will now need to elect a new speaker, but there is no clear alternative who would have the support needed to win the gavel. > > The fight over the speakership marks a major escalation in tensions for a House GOP conference that has been mired in infighting — and it comes just days after McCarthy successfully engineered a last-minute bipartisan effort to [avert a government shutdown](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/01/politics/congress-spending-bill-government-open/index.html). McCarthy sets history as first ever ousted speaker. ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/7 "2023-10-03T20:58:18Z")
Speaker Steve Scalise? ---
**Author:** ![J0EBL0W](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/j0ebl0w/32/933_2.png) [@J0EBL0W](https://community.goactuary.com/u/J0EBL0W)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/8 "2023-10-03T21:02:02Z")
I don’t know where they go from here. ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/9 "2023-10-03T21:10:07Z")
So 8 Republicans were effectively able to remove their own speaker with all the Democrats joining in. Truly a bi-partisan effort, LOL. ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/10 "2023-10-03T21:13:11Z")
[![NewsFlash\ 54x11](https://community.goactuary.com/uploads/default/original/3X/c/1/c1042741406dd83d6888e2b205acdefdc2bf189e.gif "NewsFlash")](https://www.fark.com/topic/newsflash) [McCarthy’s speakership aborted in its third trimester](https://www.fark.com/goto/13011568/www.mediaite.com/news/breaking-kevin-mccarthy-ejected-as-house-speaker-after-short-tumultous-tenure/) The Fark head line is just too funny. ---
**Author:** ![J0EBL0W](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/j0ebl0w/32/933_2.png) [@J0EBL0W](https://community.goactuary.com/u/J0EBL0W)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/11 "2023-10-03T21:13:55Z")
Is it even possible to find a compromise candidate that a few Dems would support? ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/12 "2023-10-03T21:18:53Z")
Doubtful. Last time they were unanimous in their voting bloc behind Jeffries. I assume it will be the same. Though they may “let enough of their members have other commitments than voting on speaker” if this takes too long. I assume the Rs will need to find a “compromise” candidate that the 8 wing nuts will accept along with the 210 other republicans. My bet is Steve Scalise but he may be to close to McCarthy for the wing nuts to vote yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@Indy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Indy)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/13 "2023-10-03T21:19:09Z")
What would the Ds want? I’d be happy with “abide by the spending in the debt limit compromise”. “Drop Biden impeachment committee” would be good, but probably a bridge too far. ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/14 "2023-10-03T21:19:59Z")
> [@Indy](#): > > What would the Ds want? A promise to not shut the government down until next years election? ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/15 "2023-10-03T21:21:22Z")
Americans make everything complicated in politics. Our Speaker of the House resigned last week over the Ukrainian Nazi issue and a new Speaker was voted in today. It’s a different role than the US one but shows a smoother functioning House. [https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6984673](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6984673) ---
**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/16 "2023-10-03T21:31:06Z")
> [@Cooke](#): > > Americans make everything complicated in politics. It really started with Newt. Before that things tended to run much smoother. ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/17 "2023-10-03T21:31:59Z")
Yes. I remember the good old days in American politics before compromise was a dirty word. Makes me nostalgic. ---
**Author:** ![magillaG](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e79b87/32.png) [@magillaG](https://community.goactuary.com/u/magillaG)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/18 "2023-10-03T22:15:50Z")
> [@YankeeTripper](#): > > It really started with Newt He really is a terrible person. ---
**Author:** ![Triweasel](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/triweasel/32/159_2.png) [@Triweasel](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Triweasel)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/19 "2023-10-03T22:21:25Z")
> [@YankeeTripper](#): > > A promise to not shut the government down until next years election? Even if they got such a ‘promise’, what are the chances that the Republicans would honor it? Their credibility is nil at this point imo. ---
**Author:** ![Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/maphistos_sidekick/32/84973_2.png) [@Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Maphistos_Sidekick)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2023, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458/20 "2023-10-03T22:24:49Z")
> [@YankeeTripper](#): > > A promise to not shut the government down until next years election? I could see them compromising on a continuing resolution to maintain funding to 1 February 2025 PLUS a guarantee for continued support for Ukraine. That wouldn’t be enough to get all the D’s, but it might be enough to win over at least 8. [Next page](https://community.goactuary.com/t/gaetz-to-mccarthy-drop-dead/8458.md?page=2)