Rates would be better, similar to mpg.
Miles per kWh. Dash should provide amount of kWh’s left. I don’t know how close EV’s “Range Left” stat is too reality, but in my wife’s hybrid, I went from 388 miles (filled up) to 378 miles in six miles on the ride home. It was uphill, though.
You’re asking the general public to do math??? I don’t know if other cars will display kWh remaining, Tesla lets me toggle between percent and estimated range. The EV range guess-o-meters aren’t super reliable for reasons like the example you give, if you’re going uphill or into a headwind at 80mph they will be wrong.
And you can imagine why. Do you display estimated range based on long-term consumption? Consumption over some recent period? How recent?
I will say that if I plug a destination into my Tesla’s NAV, it’ll tell me estimated state of charge upon arrival and even for 200 mile trips it’s within 2% usually, I don’t know if I’ve ever seen it be more wrong than 2%.
Just would be nice. that’s all. Yes, force them to do math, but that might be dangerous while driving. You know how sometimes people think and close their eyes or stare upward?
It would only be for long hauls, since most people will (should) fill to 80% when they are down to 20%, for their commutes and short trips around town. The car should be able to signal this, what with all the tech inside.
Teslas do, as long as you tell the car where you’re going in the nav. The car will tell you where to charge. Now, Tesla cars only know about Tesla chargers. But the ‘A Better Route Planner’ app knows all of the chargers. So we have the tech such that you don’t need to know anything, just plug in the destination and it’ll figure out the fastest route including charging.
No math required!
Then what will you, Mathman, do???
I will find newer, harder math problems! Like trying to figure out how to make a decent espresso. Once my new machine arrives, that is.
Important safety tip: do not drive your Tesla near a pond:
https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/angela-chao-death-texas-tesla-safety-c435daa0
I cannot read the entire thing, but jalopnik had a summary of it here:
Within minutes of saying her goodbyes, she called one of her friends in a panic. While making a three-point turn, she had put the car in reverse instead of drive, she said. It is a mistake she had made before with the Tesla gearshift. The car had zipped backward, tipping over an embankment and into a pond. It was sinking fast. Could they help her?
Several screen options in my leaf show instant/recent avg mi/kWh, and battery % is shown with range estimate in miles on a section that stays in view while switching screens for other stuff.
Might do some snapshots later today.
Vehicle weight, number of axles, miles driven since last registration.
Somewhere in the mix of these three, we can find a pretty good formula for “your toll on the roads”.
My state allows damn near the maximum weight per axle allowed anywhere in the US, and surprise, we also have among the worst roads in the US.
The Democrats keep trying to raise the gas tax, which I strongly support, and the Republicans keep blocking it while bitching that Democrats aren’t fixing the roads (which they very much are.)
Nobody is really paying attention to the semis tearing up the roads exponentially more.
Lol, guess I’m never getting a Tesla (well, I wasn’t anyway due to Musk’s alt-right propaganda.) Shifting with a touch-screen is monumentally stupid. After unfortunately getting a vehicle with an infotainment screen installed in the front, I will be searching next for a vehicle with as much analog as possible, if not 100% analog. I’m willing to pay a little more or buy a 12-year-old vehicle if that’s necessary.
And note that this is NOT a linear relationship. Weight adds up very quickly in terms of road damage, I once had a civil engineering major explain to me that when they design highways they just ignore cars and only account for tractor trailer traffic because the wear and tear caused by a Camry is a rounding error compared to a 40 ton truck.
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Yep, and that’s what particularly destroys my state’s roads. We have a decent amount of auto traffic and we’re in the north with worse-than-average freeze-thaw cycle effect, but our exceptionally high weight limit is the real killer.
Wait, do you have a limit over 80,000lb? I thought that was the limit everywhere, more or less - except the odd small, old bridge that has a low limit.
I was discussing weight per axle. Looking at listings of limits by state online, I find that my state’s allowances are not as exceptional as I thought, but still among the highest. Whether at the level of single, tandem, or tridem axles, only a few states in any category allow higher weight than mine. But there are a good chunk at each level at the same limit as my state, more than I thought.
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I was talking with a shipping guy one time and he said super heavy loads get special permission all the time. Didn’t get into specifics about adjustments needed (more axles?), but 40T is not an absolute max.
That is true. I worked heavy construction in college and at one point we needed a very large track hoe, the machine was around 40T and I think on the truck it was something like 50-55T. This was in the late 90s and it was something like $500 for the permit to haul it 100 miles round trip, it was pretty expensive. Presumably because of how much wear & tear that does to roads.
And it’s been a long time, but I do seem to recall the trailer having three or maybe even four axles.
Apologies if this was posted already, I don’t recall seeing it here. Paging @dr_t_non-fan
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In the general car thread:
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Good. I reiterate, fuck touchscreens in cars.
If you want one on the back of the driver’s seat for your kid to watch cartoons, sure, I don’t care.
I could be fine with a small screen that has the most limited possible use. Things like selecting which Bluetooth connection you want to latch onto, etc. Anything that can be a knob, button, or switch, I want that.
My next car search will be heavily influenced by the presence or lack of a touchscreen. I won’t refuse a car with one because that significantly limits availability, but it’s a negative and I’d love to not have one.
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Just the option not to have it. I get it for the rear camera safety, but nothing else that a driver needs. (Navigator needs? Sure.).
My wife has a friend whose Tesla screen will occasionally go off. No idea how fast they’re going.
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Sure, I’ll take backup camera, navigation if it’s part of the car, the temperature and time can be on a screen. I’ll accept changing the clock on a touch-screen. Not the radio.
My current vehicle can only change radio to presets via the steering wheel and to dial through FM I need to repeatedly tap the touch-button or hold down and release at the right time (then still click back to precisely the right spot). As a result, often if the current channel isn’t something I want I just turn it off. I’m not fiddling with a screen while driving.