Electric Vehicles

From what the above link says, it’s not available anywhere.
Still, that’ll likely be my spouse’s next vehicle. They only drive volvo’s, and we’re not far off from going electric for our vehicles. They’ll get an e-volvo. And I’m looking to get another 3-4 years out of my truck and then I’ll likely go with a hybrid truck - and there should be decent options for a truck by then; either ford or dodge. (I need a hybrid because I tow heavy stuff into the north country a few times a year and we’re lucky to have gas stations where we are, nevermind a charging station).

I test drove the C40 last year, and it was tiny. I’ve never felt so cramped, even in cars that were “smaller” on paper. Similarly sized crossovers felt much roomier. The EX30 seems to be playing in the same space, so prepare to be squeezed.

Was the cargo space also cramped?

Vietnamese car is getting really bad reviews.
A synopsis of other sites’ reviews, as Jalopnik was blacklisted after a poor review in December – red flag #1 that a company cannot take criticism.

This is hilarious, I can’t believe the folks at Borla signed off on making this a thing. I guess they have to do something, EVs kind of put a dent in sales of aftermarket exhaust.

https://www.borla.com/products/active-performance-sound-for-electric-vehicles?gclid=Cj0KCQjwsIejBhDOARIsANYqkD25OA-o2aPnK0SIWkXtzbr2FvYtN4BK40fmVMp4mdHUWU3wbGGf1U8aAvgzEALw_wcB

Outside the car or inside the car?

I saw a pic of an external speaker, I’m not clear if it also uses Bluetooth or whatever to play it inside the cabin.

Can you give me thoughts on a (not-so) hypothetical situation…

Assume a particular vehicle is available as a regular ICE engine or a hybrid option with better gas mileage and slightly better performance due to the duality of gas/battery. But the hybrid is more expensive.

Do you get the ICE? Why? Because it’s cheaper?

Do you get the hybrid? Why? Just to be a better custodian of the planet?

Do you do some sort of PV calculation on the difference between purchase prices and the gasoline cost differential for future years? [ Pick Me! Pick Me!!! ]

What if the market conditions mean quite a long wait for the hybrid, would you wait perhaps many months to a year?

I’d ignore purchase price, just compare total cost of ownership including gas/electrons, insurance, some estimate of maintenance. Depreciation is tough, and probably depends on several factors.

Beyond that, you questions have a lot of ins, a lot of outs, a lot of what-have-yous. Would have to know the cost differential, and the performance differential.

Assuming your budget is high enough, and you’re interested in a hybrid, the answer is the Volvo V60 Recharge. It’s a wagon, does 41 miles on a charge, and has 455hp going to all four wheels. The ultimate Q car, imo.

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This is tough to do since it requires assumptions that might not be as simple as projected fuel costs. Hybrids have more elements to break, so possible higher repair costs. Is there an insurance differential? Obviously this will have some error bounds.

And sometimes you need a vehicle right now and can’t wait.

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I guarantee you, the Volvo V60 is not the answer.

I like the name.

Wait, you’re in the market for a truck?

  1. I have already purchased a new hybrid this month.

  2. I am in the market for something big and comfortable. The only Volvo I would consider would be the XC90 T8 Recharge . I don’t want a 100% electric vehicle yet. They are not going to be suitable for me at this time. But hybrids are now being marketed as “electrified vehicles” so I feel justified discussing it here.

  3. Toyota Sequoias are down to a single engine option only. Any engine you want as long as you want a 3.5L turbo hybrid. But they are in very short supply.

Yeah, I feel that even though plug-in hybrids might sound like a good idea, ultimately they will be an evolutionary cul-de-sac. Too difficult to make and too many moving parts - overfitting the curve.

Anything besides the Sequoia on your radar? I’m not super plugged into large vehicles but I’m curious what you are liking.

I think this is a perfectly cromulent thread for plug in hybrid discussion.

I think they have a use case. If you live in a more rural place, charging can be a little rough, particularly if you don’t buy a Tesla. And some/many folks still find the idea of waiting 15-20 minutes to charge on road trips to be a bridge too far.

My last car was a Volt, when I got it the charging infrastructure was super spotty and an EV wouldn’t have worked.

I don’t know, maybe if you’re in a rural area, might be easier to stick to ICE if reducing carbon output isn’t a priority.

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Sequoias are hybrid now.

Expeditions seem to be poised to be hybrid by next year. Lexus LX (comparable to stable mate Sequoia) probably within a year or 2 as well.

F150s and Tundras are available in hybrid form now. GM gave up on their SUV hybrid system years ago.

When Plug in Hybrids get a 60 mile range, I might get interested. Until then, not my cup-o-tea. But I bet a P-I-H will be on my radar before a 100% electric, no-gas car ever is.

We drove an XC90 back in 2021 for 3 months (while abroad while working remotely) and its a great family SUV.

My wife & I both liked it.

I don’t remember it being large. The C40 had a sloped rear, which exacerbated everything. Maybe the EX30 will be better in that regard.