Don’t know much Biology.
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WRT the US’s relationship with France and the American Revolution, it might help to remember that it was the French Monarchy that provided the much needed aid to the US.
During the French Revolution, the US wasn’t in a position to “return the favor” to help aid the monarchists. Also, the US didn’t have much good will toward any monarchy at that time, either.
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just finished “Lies My Teacher Told Me”. my memory of US history courses was that we ended them maybe in WW2 as we ran out of time. the race through the factoids selected for the text…takes a long time.
Yes! I’m not even sure we ever made it to ww2.
I remember reading on Ask Historians that this is not necessarily true. The USSR was helped by the Allies giving it equipment and dividing the Nazis attention.
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Eh, the USSR would have defeated Hitler with or without the US. It just would’ve taken longer.
I don’t think the reverse is true, at least not without the nuclear bomb. If we’d still gotten the nuclear bomb first then we could have nuked Germany, and maybe gotten them to surrender. If we’d dropped both bombs on Germany then we would have had none left for Japan though and they might have figured out that we didn’t have any more. It’s quite the thought exercise. Obviously we could have done one on each… dunno how that would have played out. My understanding is that we dropped the two just a few days apart because we wanted them to think there were lots more where that came from, when that was actually very far from accurate.
WWI was another time.
Well it would have been quite rude to drop the bomb on Germany after it surrendered. VEDay was May 8, Trinity July 16, Hiroshima Aug 6.
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This is the hypothetical where the USSR was neutral. Germany wouldn’t have surrendered in May without the USSR’s involvement.
The US might not have even survived as a nation through August 6 though. But if we assume that the Manhattan Project would have continued on the same timeline, Germany would have still been in the war in August.
In the hypothetical USSR and Germany don’t go to war version, you think Germany would be able to invade and conquer the US? They couldn’t cross the English Channel! Now if they had the A Bomb before we did, that is an interesting question.
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I asked the history teachers today how far their curriculum goes. They said to GWB and the war on terror, and they usually get to it by the end of the year.
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Only because Germany made the tactical error of invading the USSR. Europe might look different today if Germany had concentrated all their efforts westward and not invaded the USSR.
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After France fell, what should they have done? Invaded England? That takes a lot of thinking and planning and logistics. Took us three years. Think Nazi Germany didn’t try to plan such a thing only to fail in the planning stages? Heck, if that wasn’t easier than breaking a treaty with the USSR, then it was not going to be easy.
I learned that. It was always made me confused about our general attitude towards France.
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Well, they are the French, after all
This was literally their strategy as a next step when England wouldn’t seek peace. The whole point of the Battle of Britain was that they needed air superiority over southern England in order to protect a landing. Operation Sea Lion was shelved when the Battle of Britain was lost.
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Depends how many of our soldiers they’d have killed in Europe first, I suppose. They couldn’t cross the English Channel in large part because the Soviets were taking so much of their focus that they didn’t have much left for the British.
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Yeah without the Soviet blunder I think Britain’s best hope was Hitler having a soft spot for the UK and eventually accepting peace after the British were worn down, but the economic might of Germany without the Soviet distraction would eventually overrun the UK, it nearly happened even with the Soviet distraction and some US support.
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I believe this piece of history was covered in Star Trek.
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