# COVID risk mitigation

**URL:** <https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546>\
**Category:** Covid19\
**Created:** [April 5, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546 "2021-04-05T18:06:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/greenman/32/1904_2.png) [@greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/greenman)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 12:40pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/21 "2021-04-20T12:40:40Z")

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This list is more fear mongering. Instead of ranking from 1-35, it needs to be on 0-10 scale about how dangerous each activity is. And taking a walk/hike should be about 0.001 on the scale. Whereas hanging with a sick person should be a 10.

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**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/22 "2021-04-20T14:13:52Z")

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Yeah, I see little value to “lets take 35 random activities that aren’t sitting alone at home and rank them”. You want some sort of scale.

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**Author:** ![Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/maphistos_sidekick/32/84973_2.png) [@Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Maphistos_Sidekick)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/23 "2021-04-20T18:21:22Z")

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But that would defeat the point of having easy-to-write clickbait!

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**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/24 "2021-04-20T18:24:15Z")

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Well, it wasn’t a slide show, so not clicking the bait. Or baiting the click?

A scale would be good. I think in the early months of COVID, there was a chart of some sorts posted on the AO regarding activities that were more risky than others. Time for a search…

OK, I’m back!  
[https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us/news-press/news-detail?articleid=26936&publicId=395](https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us/news-press/news-detail?articleid=26936&publicId=395)

Ooh, and a colorful chart, for those who don’t understand numbers one through ten:

> **[NewsTexasRiskAssessment-copyPDF.pdf](https://healthnewshub.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/NewsTexasRiskAssessment-copyPDF.pdf?_ga=2.212804375.2022501618.1618943083-1678625386.1618943083)**
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Notably missing: “hanging out with sick people.”

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**Author:** ![The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_president/32/70075_2.png) [@The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_President)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/25 "2021-04-20T18:54:49Z")

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Well, even worse, calling the random list the 35 places most likely to catch COVID.

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**Author:** ![Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/marcie/32/8789_2.png) [@Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Marcie)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/26 "2021-05-17T18:38:32Z")

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Not sure where to post this, but this thread seems like a decent place for it…

Came across this fun site today:

> **[COVID Charts Quiz](https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/)**
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> Test your knowledge of how government interventions affected the COVID-19 pandemic.

GoA denizens: try out these quizzes & report back your results!

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**Author:** ![Vorian\_Atreides](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/vorian_atreides/32/65623_2.png) [@Vorian\_Atreides](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Vorian_Atreides)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/27 "2021-05-17T18:57:59Z")

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Is there a prize if you’re a member of the SOA (or a candidate for SOA membership)?

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**Author:** ![Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/marcie/32/8789_2.png) [@Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Marcie)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/28 "2021-05-17T19:09:10Z")

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Free ASA to the best score.

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**Author:** ![meep](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/meep/32/44_2.png) [@meep](https://community.goactuary.com/u/meep)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/29 "2021-05-17T19:10:17Z")

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I was off by an average of 55 days.

In a couple cases, I was only 1 or 3 days away.

I could always use an extra ASA.

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**Author:** ![Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/marcie/32/8789_2.png) [@Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Marcie)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/30 "2021-05-17T19:11:07Z")

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Did you do the other quizzes (eg state vs state)?

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**Author:** ![meep](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/meep/32/44_2.png) [@meep](https://community.goactuary.com/u/meep)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/31 "2021-05-17T19:37:42Z")

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I did not do that, mainly because I can pretty much eyeball the graphs and guess which state is which. [I’ve been looking at those frickin graphs all year]

I hadn’t been looking at the European nation info at all, so thought I’d take a stab at it.

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**Author:** ![Vorian\_Atreides](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/vorian_atreides/32/65623_2.png) [@Vorian\_Atreides](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Vorian_Atreides)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/32 "2021-05-17T19:56:58Z")

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> [@Marcie](#):
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> Free ASA

lol

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**Author:** ![Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Actuary321)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/33 "2021-05-17T21:47:30Z")

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average 47 days.  
50% on the pick 10.  
67% at the end.

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**Author:** ![The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_president/32/70075_2.png) [@The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_President)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/34 "2021-05-17T21:58:02Z")

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I averaged 36 days. I recall Austria was one of the first to mandate masks, and their cases stood out as dropping almost instantly.

State by state or country by country comparisons do not make for for a good science experiment given the amount of variability and widespread lack of compliance. Hong Kong somehow avoided a large outbreak in spite of a massive population density, so restrictions and masks obviously work. Probably in the US and most countries had lower COVID rates with a large share of the population restricting their behaviors either voluntarily or due to a mandate.

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**Author:** ![Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/mathman/32/14042_2.png) [@Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Mathman)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/35 "2021-05-17T22:01:17Z")

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> [@The\_President](#):
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> I averaged 36 days.

37 days for me. 🤬

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**Author:** ![Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/marcie/32/8789_2.png) [@Marcie](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Marcie)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/36 "2021-05-17T23:49:08Z")

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> [@The\_President](#):
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> country by country comparisons do not make for for a good science experiment given the amount of variability

Ok, with you so far.

> [@The\_President](#):
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> Hong Kong somehow avoided a large outbreak in spite of a massive population density, so restrictions and masks obviously work.

Then you go and do this.

You realize basically the entire Pacific Rim avoided a large outbreak despite wildly different restrictions & mitigation responses, right? So maybe part of that variability includes other confounding variables (eg previous population exposure to SARS1, testing paradigm, population age & general health).

State to state comparisons generally have less variability in these other confounders.

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**Author:** ![The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/the_president/32/70075_2.png) [@The\_President](https://community.goactuary.com/u/The_President)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 12:30am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/37 "2021-05-18T00:30:56Z")

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SARS1 having 8000 confirmed cases probably did nothing for COVID other than being a recent reminder that pandemics can happen. What you also need to realize is that you will find high rates of masking across Southeast Asia without a single mandate and people will commonly wear one any time they are not feeling well to prevent the spread of disease to others. It is part of the culture.

I’d be open to the idea of other factors such as much of the region is warm and have more open-air markets and businesses that would help as well, but more I suspect they just took it more seriously overall on a voluntary basis.

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**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 12:51am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/38 "2021-05-18T00:51:45Z")

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37 days for me too

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**Author:** ![Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/lucy/32/8802_2.png) [@Lucy](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Lucy)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/covid-risk-mitigation/2546/39 "2021-05-18T13:47:38Z")

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> [@The\_President](#):
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> SARS1 having 8000 confirmed cases probably did nothing for COVID other than being a recent reminder that pandemics can happen. What you also need to realize is that you will find high rates of masking across Southeast Asia without a single mandate and people will commonly wear one any time they are not feeling well to prevent the spread of disease to others. It is part of the culture.
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> I’d be open to the idea of other factors such as much of the region is warm and have more open-air markets and businesses that would help as well, but more I suspect they just took it more seriously overall on a voluntary basis.

Yup. Honestly, I took the experience of “places where it’s normal to wear masks to reduce the spread of disease” as compared to “places where the govt discouraged people from wearing masks, sowing widespread confusion” as pretty powerful evidence that masks made a big difference.

And of course the shining comparison is Sweden vs. the rest of Scandinavia. Same ethnic stock. Same climate. Extremely similar culture. Different official guidance.

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