# Charlie Kirk shot while giving a speech in Utah **URL:** \ **Category:** Political Topics\ **Created:** [September 10, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241 "2025-09-10T19:06:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Actuary321)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2025, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/625 "2025-09-26T21:41:16Z")
Yeah, but now those people are actually seeing the show and ratings will drop off quite a bit and quite fast. I suspect he will be back to his normal ratings within a week. ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2025, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/626 "2025-09-26T22:46:41Z")
Of course. He got a Trump bump. ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2025, 11:37am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/627 "2025-09-27T11:37:08Z")
Now everyone is going to try to get cancelled so they can stage a triumphant return ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/628 "2025-09-27T15:44:38Z")
Less than the bump, undoubtedly. But truly, I never used to watch Kimmel. I’m now interested to catch some of his segments in the mornings. Maybe he’ll peel some of my attention from Oliver/Meyers/Colbert. Either way, I’m a little more engaged with late-night shows with how under attack they are. ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2025, 3:18am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/629 "2025-09-28T03:18:17Z")
You’ll have to watch some other way, since your area seems to be pre-empting the show. (Maybe not anymore.) ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2025, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/630 "2025-09-28T18:46:16Z")
I don’t even know what TV channels are available to us for free, anyway. I only watch online. Sinclair can suck an egg. ---
**Author:** ![now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/now_samantha/32/24815_2.png) [@now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/u/now_samantha)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 12:47am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/631 "2025-09-29T00:47:29Z")
> A 42-year-old [Texas](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/dallas-ice-shooting-target-agents-b2833885.html) man is facing federal charges after allegedly threatening to shoot up the Abilene Pride Parade as revenge for the recent [assassination of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/charlie-kirk-murder-suspect-tyler-robinson-texts-motive-b2831023.html) > > “fk their parade, I say we lock and load and pay them back for taking out Charlie Kirk,” Joshua Cole wrote in a September 18 message to a Facebook friend, according to an FBI probable cause affidavit reviewed by _The Independent_. > > “… [C]ome on bro let’s go hunting fairies,” he wrote, the affidavit says. > > Cole was arrested by the [FBI](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-james-comey-criminal-charges-fbi-b2833842.html) a day later, telling agents that he “did not believe that the gay pride event should be allowed,” while claiming he didn’t actually intend to gun down parade participants, the affidavit states. > **[Texas man accused of plotting Pride parade shooting as revenge for Charlie Kirk](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/abilene-texas-pride-charlie-kirk-threat-b2833906.html)** > > Exclusive: ‘Come on bro let’s go hunting fairies,’ Joshua Cole wrote to a friend two days before the Abilene Pride Parade, according to an FBI probable cause affidavit reviewed by The Independent ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/632 "2025-09-29T01:58:39Z")
Locker room talk. Will be pardoned for thinking acceptable thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@SteveWhite](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveWhite)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 9:49am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/633 "2025-09-29T09:49:16Z")
Have those rogue FBI agents been fired yet? ---
**Author:** ![Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Actuary321)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/634 "2025-09-29T17:58:58Z")
Saw something this morning that said that Robinson’s attorneys might be able to get the DP thrown out by arguing that he was a good enough shot and only made one shot, that no one else was actually endangered and therefore there are no aggravating circumstances to warrant the DP. Reading through the law with regards to the required aggravating circumstances, they might have a case. ---
**Author:** ![now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/now_samantha/32/24815_2.png) [@now\_samantha](https://community.goactuary.com/u/now_samantha)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/635 "2025-09-29T18:11:44Z")
Looking at Utah law, I agree. But they could charge him federally if the assassination is deemed terrorism or a hate crime against Christians, and under federal law, premeditated murder is eligible for the death penalty. ---
**Author:** ![Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/maphistos_sidekick/32/84973_2.png) [@Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Maphistos_Sidekick)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/636 "2025-09-29T18:14:57Z")
Haven’t the feds been defeated a time or two in court recently from trying to stretch the “terrorism” label too far? ---
**Author:** ![Fish\_Actuary](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Fish\_Actuary](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Fish_Actuary)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/637 "2025-09-29T18:16:18Z")
Has there been anything to support the claim that it was hate towards Christians in particular? There’s a pretty huge difference between killing someone who’s a Christian versus killing them because they’re Christian. ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/638 "2025-09-29T19:16:11Z")
> [@Fish\_Actuary](#): > > Has there been anything to support the claim that it was hate towards Christians in particular? And Christians sometimes hate other Christians who are not the same type. For example, Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland are both Christians. ---
**Author:** ![tommie.frazier](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@tommie.frazier](https://community.goactuary.com/u/tommie.frazier)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/639 "2025-09-29T21:15:42Z")
you and your subtlety! where does that fit in with the current govt prosecution pattern? ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/640 "2025-09-29T22:59:48Z")
> [@Fish\_Actuary](#): > > There’s a pretty huge difference between killing someone who’s a Christian versus killing them because they’re Christian. COVID parallel? “Died while Christian” versus “Died because Christian”? Would need the ICD-9 codes. Also, “‘Drop in Hate’ Crime” is more like it. ---
**Author:** ![Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Actuary321)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/641 "2025-09-30T04:10:33Z")
See “Gun Violence In America,” the Michigan attack on the LDS church. ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 4:15am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/642 "2025-09-30T04:15:02Z")
I try to avoid that thread. Too depressing. ---
**Author:** ![Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/rastiln/32/77682_2.png) [@Rastiln](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Rastiln)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 11:43am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/643 "2025-09-30T11:43:01Z")
> [@Fish\_Actuary](#): > > Has there been anything to support the claim that it was hate towards Christians in particular? Allegedly the guy was witnessed going on a rant about Mormons being the “antichrist” and hated the LDS. Up to you to decide whether Mormons are classified as Christians. It’s not a debate I care about. ---
**Author:** ![Fish\_Actuary](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Fish\_Actuary](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Fish_Actuary)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2025, 11:52am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/charlie-kirk-shot-while-giving-a-speech-in-utah/12241/644 "2025-09-30T11:52:16Z")
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