Bridge: 2024 MSC discussion

                              A     B     C     D     E     F     G     H
procrastinator                                                          
oirg                          2D    4C    3S    4N   Dbl    3C    3D    S4
SW                            3H    4S    4H    6N    2N    2N    3D    S4
Klaymen                       2H    4N    4H    4N    3N    2D    3D    S4
ST                                                                      
BTDT                                                                    
NN                                                                      
veni vidi vici                2H    3D    4D    4D    3N    2H    3D    D8
4Sigma                                                                  
Abstract Actuary              2D    3S     P    5D    3N    3D    3D    C6
Leading                                             3N          3D    S4

[red]Obviously need more votes.[/red] Have only 5 different choices so far on B and F

From SweetTooth, by e-mail

                              A     B     C     D     E     F     G     H
procrastinator                                                          
oirg                          2D    4C    3S    4N   Dbl    3C    3D    S4
SW                            3H    4S    4H    6N    2N    2N    3D    S4
Klaymen                       2H    4N    4H    4N    3N    2D    3D    S4
ST                            2D    3D    3S    6D    2N    2H    2S    S4
BTDT                                                                    
NN                                                                      
veni vidi vici                2H    3D    4D    4D    3N    2H    3D    D8
4Sigma                                                                  
Abstract Actuary              2D    3S     P    5D    3N    3D    3D    C6
Leading                       2D                      3N          3D    S4

A) 2 diamonds. Willing to take another call over 2H or 2S, so will go this way.
B) 3 diamonds. Not sure I will able to find out what I need, and may need to eventually just jump to 6 spades, but this feels most likely to be able to get info out.
C) 3 spades. I think with hand types that would make 3NT opposite this, partner would have doubled. This shows more shape to me.
D) 4 diamonds. Will play either 4NT (if partner bids it) or 6D (if partner does not bid 4NT). Considered 3NT instead, could be convinced that is better.
E) 3 diamonds. Yuck.
F) 2 diamonds. This is why when you agree to 4sf, you should always discuss what the default bid is…
G) 2 spades. Partner might have doubled with some 45s? Thought about 3d or 3h as well.
H) diamond 8, with no conviction.

Woohoo, think this is the first time in a while that I had no problems where I was out on my own. Maybe I will do better this month…

                  A     B     C     D     E     F     G     H
procrastinator    2D    3D    3S    4D    3D    2D    2S    D8                                                   
oirg              2D    4C    3S    4N   Dbl    3C    3D    S4
SW                3H    4S    4H    6N    2N    2N    3D    S4
Klaymen           2H    4N    4H    4N    3N    2D    3D    S4
ST                2D    3D    3S    6D    2N    2H    2S    S4
BTDT                                                                    
NN                                                                      
veni vidi vici    2H    3D    4D    4D    3N    2H    3D    D8
4Sigma                                                                  
Abstract Actuary  2D    3S     P    5D    3N    3D    3D    C6
Leading           2D    3D    3S          3N          3D    S4

Just over 24 hours, in case there are any late votes or comments

A) 2H
B) 4C
C) 4H
D) 3N
E) Dbl
F) 2N
G) 3D
H) Spade 4

                              A     B     C     D     E     F     G     H
procrastinator                2D    3D    3S    4D    3D    2D    2S    D8
oirg                          2D    4C    3S    4N   Dbl    3C    3D    S4
SW                            3H    4S    4H    6N    2N    2N    3D    S4
Klaymen                       2H    4N    4H    4N    3N    2D    3D    S4
ST                            2D    3D    3S    6D    2N    2H    2S    S4
BTDT                          2H    4C    4H    3N   Dbl    2N    3D    S4
NN                                                                      
veni vidi vici                2H    3D    4D    4D    3N    2H    3D    D8
4Sigma                                                                  
Abstract Actuary              2D    3S     P    5D    3N    3D    3D    C6
Leading                       2D    3D 3S ?? 6D ??    3N 2H ??    3D    S4

Just documenting my current thoughts, in case it attracts any more votes or comments.

From NN, by e-mail, just commenting on the ones in doubt:

[quote]
C: 4H. I think that with 5-4, partner would double instead of bidding 3H.
D: 6D. 2NT should show 17-20. I think I have enough for this.
F: 2D. No third heart, no club stopper, so I default to the cheap 2D.
[/spoiler]
Hence, expecting to submit 4H on C, 6D on D and 2D on F, unless influenced by 4Sigma or some other comments.

On F., we’re in a game force, presumably trying to get to 3N on these cards, with clubs being the problematic suit. I can’t bid 2N because I don’t have clubs stopped, and diamond, heart and spade bids distort the hand. 3C therefore is the only logical bid showing doubt about a club stopper (because if I had one, I’d bid Nt). This will right- side the contract if my p has a soft club stopper.

My choice has no support. So I’d switch to 2D, or 3C - oirg’s logic makes sense.

Again, no support on D, so I would move to 4N.

                              A     B     C     D     E     F     G     H
procrastinator                2D    3D    3S    4D    3D    2D    2S    D8
oirg                          2D    4C    3S    4N   Dbl    3C    3D    S4
SW                            3H    4S    4H    6N    2N    2N    3D    S4
Klaymen                       2H    4N    4H    4N    3N    2D    3D    S4
ST                            2D    3D    3S    6D    2N    2H    2S    S4
BTDT                          2H    4C    4H    3N   Dbl    2N    3D    S4
NN                                      4H    6D          2D            
veni vidi vici                2H    3D    4D    4D    3N    2H    3D    D8
4Sigma                                                                  
Abstract Actuary              2D    3S     P    4N    3N    2D    3D    C6
Submitted                     2D    3D    4H    6D    3N    2D    3D    S4

I’ve left my bid in the table for D as 6N, since I almost always score myself on first choices. And 6N would still be my first choice, but with no one else supporting it I’ll consider my vote as having moved to 6D. That still, with AA’s moved vote, leaves a 3-3 tie, and then I’ll submit our choice as 6D (fingers crossed).

                  A        B        C        D        E        F        G        H        Total
procrastinator    2D   100 3D   60  3S   100 4D   90  3D   40  2D   50  2S   90  D8   40  570  
oirg              2D   100 4C   50  3S   100 4N   100 Dbl  50  3C   30  3D   100 S4   100 630  
SW                3H   60  4S   30  4H   50  6N   70  2N   30  2N   70  3D   100 S4   100 510  
Klaymen           2H   70  4N   40  4H   50  4N   100 3N   100 2D   50  3D   100 S4   100 610  
BTDT              2H   70  4C   50  4H   50  3N   40  Dbl  50  2N   70  3D   100 S4   100 530  
NN                                  4H   50  6D   80           2D   50                    N/A  
veni vidi vici    2H   70  3D   60  4D   70  4D   90  3N   100 2H   100 3D   100 D8   40  630  
4Sigma                                                                                         
Abstract Actuary  2D   100 3S   100 P    40  4N   100 3N   100 2D   50  3D   100 C6   60  650  
Submitted         2D   100 3D   60  4H   50  6D   80  3N   100 2D   50  3D   100 S4   100 640  


                                                                               
                  2D   100 3S   100 3S   100 4N   100 3N   100 2H   100 3D   100 S4   100   
                  2H   70  3D   60  4D   70  4D   90  Dbl  50  2N   70  2S   90  D8   40       
                  3H   60  4C   50  4H   50  6D   80  3D   40  2D   50           C6   60       
                           4N   40  P    40  6N   70  2N   30  3C   30                         
                           4S   30           3N   40                                           

Unfortunate choice on all three what were up in the air. On D, the top three choices all got 6 panelist votes.

Congratulations to ST, back after a long absence, whose 660 would have tied for 43-51 on the monthly honor roll, and AA, whose 650 would have tied for 52-59, the lowest score to make the roll.

PLEASE ANSWER in the 2025 Thread.

That’s the top 29 from the Honor Roll. We are 7th, up from 9th in 2023. Only 10 out of 6th, 20 out of 5th, 30 out of 4th, then gaps get MUCH larger. The whole honor roll, available at BridgeWorld.com is 106 names.

I have heard nothing further, but we are guest panelists for 3 months in 2025 based on the 2023 finish, so we likely will get another appearance in 2026. Minor downside: we cannot change our votes for those months, but on the bright side I won’t need to nag anyone to get answers in.

That’s pretty cool. Congrats.