# Alex Jones / Sandy Hook Trial

**URL:** <https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263>\
**Category:** Political Topics\
**Created:** [August 3, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263 "2022-08-03T16:58:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/101 "2022-10-12T20:01:13Z")

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BREAKING NEWS: Jury says Infowars host Alex Jones should pay $965 million to people who suffered from Sandy Hook lies. Details to come.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

Oh and he says he done saying sorry. Though if he has to actually pay these damages I think he’ll really be sorry.

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**Author:** ![SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/stevegrondin/32/3257_2.png) [@SteveGrondin](https://community.goactuary.com/u/SteveGrondin)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/102 "2022-10-12T20:01:46Z")

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$965M in damages in CT trial. Not sure how it is split compensatory vs punitive.

Eta: darn, ninja’d.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/103 "2022-10-12T20:19:46Z")

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> [@YankeeTripper](#):
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> he says he don’t saying sorry.

I hesitate to assume this is a typo when we’re discussing Alex Jones, but… is there a typo in there somewhere?

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**Author:** ![YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/yankeetripper/32/946_2.png) [@YankeeTripper](https://community.goactuary.com/u/YankeeTripper)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/104 "2022-10-12T20:27:21Z")

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Yes, he said he’s DONE saying sorry.

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**Author:** ![Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/maphistos_sidekick/32/84973_2.png) [@Maphistos\_Sidekick](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Maphistos_Sidekick)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/105 "2022-10-13T00:08:56Z")

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The jury ruled $965m compensatory and liable for punitive. In Connecticut, for cases such as this, punitive damages are limited to litigation costs and attorneys’ fees, with the judge making the final determination.

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**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/106 "2022-10-13T00:17:30Z")

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The guy made his money peddling lies at the expense of those harmed, so losing all of that seems just to me.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/107 "2022-10-13T00:34:54Z")

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> [@tweet in OP](#):
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> “12 days ago, your attorneys messed up and sent me a digital copy of every text” Jones has sent for years.
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> “You know what perjury is?” the lawyer asks.

So is the perjury trial coming next?  
:popcorn:

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 12:36am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/108 "2022-10-13T00:36:21Z")

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> [@Ted\_Hoffman](#):
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> I will say his bankruptcy filing should get thrown out with prejudice and very likely criminal charges for perjury in those filings.

Oh, and I forgot about this piece. 🤦‍♀️

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**Author:** ![soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/soyleche/32/42_2.png) [@soyleche](https://community.goactuary.com/u/soyleche)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/109 "2022-10-13T01:11:25Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1580287068575797251?s=46&t=PYLtGTh4qGI2oUFr-GCMSQ>

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> Watching the Sandy Hook verdict live from his studio, Alex Jones makes an urgent plea to his audience for cash, and tells them that none of the money they send him will go the the families because he has filed for bankruptcy.

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**Author:** ![OldTimer](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/8797f3/32.png) [@OldTimer](https://community.goactuary.com/u/OldTimer)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/110 "2022-10-13T14:15:17Z")

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> [@Maphistos\_Sidekick](#):
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> The jury ruled $965m compensatory and liable for punitive. In Connecticut, for cases such as this, punitive damages are limited to litigation costs and attorneys’ fees, with the judge making the final determination.

According to the Hartford Courant, there will be two types of punitive damages, one for attorneys fees, etc., which is expected be a million dollars or maybe 2. There is also violation of unfair trade practices. This award is uncapped in CT. So who knows how large that might be. Judge Bellis will decide both of these punitive amounts in the coming days or months. The actual dates for arguments are not yet set.

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**Author:** ![Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/mathman/32/14042_2.png) [@Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Mathman)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/111 "2022-10-13T14:18:53Z")

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How does his whole bankruptcy play out here? I’m sure he’ll never be poor because there are enough morons who will continue to donate to his ‘martyrdom’ and buy boner pills or whatever he sells. But can he manage to protect assets via bankruptcy or will the courts be able to penetrate that and extract most/all of his current wealth?

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/112 "2022-10-13T14:31:53Z")

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> [@Mathman](#):
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> can he manage to protect assets via bankruptcy

There’s limits to how much you can protect. Like you can protect the equity in one home but the equity has to be less than some fixed dollar amount (that is _maybe_ indexed to inflation?)

You can protect one car (two if married and both spouses are filing for bankruptcy jointly) but I’m pretty sure that there is again a cap on equity. But if you’ve been putting off getting a new garbage disposal or garage door opener, certainly get all of that done right before declaring bankruptcy.

You can buy a bunch of clothes right before declaring bankruptcy and if you wear each item once then they’re used and the value is de minimus. So it’s a good time to update your wardrobe, get your suit taken in / let out, have that ripped seam repaired by a professional. Get everything dry cleaned.

When I was a creditor in bankruptcy court the debtors spent a crap ton on new clothes. It was infuriating.

So yeah, there’s a ton of games that help normal folks maximize what they can keep after bankruptcy. But he can’t use it to protect multiple million-dollar homes that he owns outright. Or certainly financial assets.

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**Author:** ![Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/mathman/32/14042_2.png) [@Mathman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Mathman)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 2:33pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/113 "2022-10-13T14:33:43Z")

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Oh good, I’ll keep my hopes alive that the courts get a chance to really sink their claws into old Alex.

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**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/114 "2022-10-13T14:34:41Z")

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> [@twig93](#):
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> Like you can protect the equity in one home but the equity has to be less than some fixed dollar amount

I believe this varies by state. Florida allows unlimited protection from bankruptcy on your primary residence as long as you have lived there a bit. For that reason a lot of slimy folks that will likely get sued will try to shelter their assets by sinking much of their wealth in a FL residence.

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**Author:** ![MAX](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/max/32/469_2.png) [@MAX](https://community.goactuary.com/u/MAX)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/115 "2022-10-13T14:39:38Z")

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How about money in offshore accounts, assets tranfered to relatives, or in trusts?

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/116 "2022-10-13T14:39:52Z")

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That could be. My experience was not in Florida and the debtors decided not to keep their house anyway. (They were under water on it, so no asset to protect.)

Stupidly, when they are determining how much you can pay your creditors each month after bankruptcy (is that a chapter 11?) they include your mortgage payment even if you’re not keeping the house. You could have a $5,000 a month mortgage and $1,000 a month rent and you can choose to use the mortgage payment as your housing expense. It’s ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/twig93/32/527_2.png) [@twig93](https://community.goactuary.com/u/twig93)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/117 "2022-10-13T14:41:24Z")

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> [@MAX](#):
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> How about money in offshore accounts, assets tranfered to relatives, or in trusts?

Not protected in bankruptcy… if the court knows about it.

And pre-bankruptcy it’s not protected from garnishment either, but the onus is on the creditor to find the asset and garnish it.

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**Author:** ![tommie.frazier](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@tommie.frazier](https://community.goactuary.com/u/tommie.frazier)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/119 "2022-10-14T02:23:11Z")

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alex jones is an angrier PT Barnum. His followers/adherents/listeners/donors should have 25% of their money delivered to the barnum estate for their sucker-ness.

if he delivered his schtick outside a subway station he’d be…avoided by all.

i hope he begs himself hoarse and has a massive coronary on the air some day. a waste of carbon-based cells.

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**Author:** ![funkingded](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/funkingded/32/83398_2.png) [@funkingded](https://community.goactuary.com/u/funkingded)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 2:31am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/120 "2022-10-14T02:31:02Z")

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I describe Alex Jones as Rush Limbaugh on PCP.

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**Author:** ![tommie.frazier](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@tommie.frazier](https://community.goactuary.com/u/tommie.frazier)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/alex-jones-sandy-hook-trial/6263/121 "2022-10-14T03:01:36Z")

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if he could only be on pcp and leap off a building.

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