This is just a subset of the risk for your personal auto coverage. So it’ll be cheaper.
When all cars are rentals, the cost will be cheaper. Obviously you don’t compare with the rental prices now
Well that’s clearly never going to happen.
When the demand goes up the price will go down? We’ll see I guess.
Rental car pricing is still very high in most places, as the rental companies have not recovered from selling off fleets during COVID and not being able to easily replenish due to high car prices over the last year. Might be a while until rental prices drop given supply issues for new vehicles.
uh huh
obviously the supply will skyrocket because there will be no personal cars
All???
Rich and upper middle class and car enthusiasts are still going to want their own cars. I do think we can move in the direction of a materially lower percentage of people owning their own cars. But it’s not going down to 0. EVER.
Hell, horse ownership still hasn’t reached 0. It’s way lower than it used to be, of course. Carriage ownership is even lower than horse ownership, but still not 0. Cars, being more fun than carriages, will be considerably more popular. They’ll get to the level of horses when the technology is replaced with something better. Not when people are forced out of them.
Yes, some people will still have cars. But personal cars should be prohibitively expensive to deter such purchase. We don’t prevent rich people from building billion dollar yachts either, but I don’t include that in my discussion of owning a boat.
We don’t go out of our way to deliberately deter yacht ownership either. There’s regular sales tax on a yacht, fuel tax on the fuel, and registration fees. And they’re naturally expensive because they are expensive to make, market, and transport. But the government isn’t trying to make yacht ownership prohibitively expensive any more than they are trying to make horse ownership prohibitively expensive.
That’s because we don’t live on water.
We’re talking about affordable housing here. Please stay on topic. In order to have affordable housing, housing needs to be concentrated and built as high rises, in order for that to work, we need to reduce the number of cars and parking needed. In order to do that, we need to deter having personal cars.
The yacht was an example to counter your disingenuous objection of my usage of “ALL”.
You should probably use a different word if you don’t actually mean ‘all’.
Uh, you’re the one who brought up yachts. ![]()
There’s more people that talk like me than not, unfortunately.
Sure
Still with you
This is where you start being wrong. This is patently false. Put the residential parking underground beneath the buildings where they live.
You don’t need much parking around businesses in dense areas as most people will walk or take transit.
No. Reduce the demand by making cars unnecessary. But don’t deliberately create barriers to car ownership.
Like I’m thinking of one of my friends… they have a 6-car household. Mom, Dad, and the 4 kids with licenses all have cars. The only person who doesn’t have their own car is the 7-year-old.
6 cars for 7 people is overkill. Make it so they feel they can get by with 1 or 2. Don’t force them to 0.
You need to both reduce demand and create a barrier. We do this all the time. Especially when it comes to traffic, infrastructure can usually only support one way of habit. That’s why horse carriages aren’t allowed on the streets anymore. If personal cars inhibit the vast adoption of rental vehicles and creates more traffic for everyone on the road than otherwise, then it makes sense to ban personal cars in the places where people will be living (the futuristic high-rise dense cities that host the majority of the population).
If you are one of the people that drive 2000mile trips once a year (cough), just take a rental to outside of the city, where your personal car is parked in the wilderness, and then go on your merry trip.
This is obviously not a change overnight. When I say 0, I mean the direction towards 0 (probably eventually 0, if cars are even still a thing then).
I don’t mean a ban tomorrow and all personal car owners are executed. You know better.
Then stop saying 0. It’s getting in the way of a productive conversation. We’re talking about getting car traffic out of the city, not banning people from owing cars out in rural areas. I’m not sure that comes through in your posts
Gee. Okay.
I’ll try harder to navigate through the denseness here.
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Huh? Sure they are. It’s not common for me to see them, but I saw one on the interstate not too long ago.
There are a handful of cities (most recently Chicago) that have mostly banned their use within city limits, but in most parts of the country it remains perfectly legal to drive a horse drawn carriage on public streets. And the places that are banning them are doing so on the basis that it is supposedly cruel to the horses. Not some sort of infrastructure reason.
(It doesn’t have to be cruel, although certainly some horses are mistreated.)
That’s quite an “if”… I’m not sure why you think that’s the case. If people are using cars the same amount then a rental model would result in MORE miles than an ownership model since you have to get the car from the rental agency to your home & back.
lol
I give up.