2025 College Football Discussion

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So Pitt pretty much removes GT from the ACC championship hunt. Highly likely match-up in Va-SMU. Miami needs a lot of help. Though there are still technically 6 teams with a shot at the ACC championship game.

BYU simply needs to beat beat UCF in Provo next week to get a rematch with TT.

Congrats!

Can’t tell if U-Mich is win and they’re in. Can’t tell if they win a three-way with Oregon and tOSU to play in the Conf Champ Game vs IU. Can’t tell which teams would be in the Conf Champ. if a four-way. (top Big 10 team would have to lose to bottom Big 10 team). Can’t tell if they would be in even without being in the Conf. Champ. Game. Pretty low-ranked, but beating tOSU will have perks. 7 spots, though?

Da U, while still the highest-ranked ACC team, are on the outside looking in. Unsure if they get to the Conf. Champ. Game without help. They’ll have to beat Pitt, who’s above them, but they’ve already lost to SMU, who is also ahead of them. They might have to hope for a 5-way or 6-way tie.

So, two of the three teams tied in the ACC are win-the-rest-and-they’re-in. which two? No idea.
I’ve seen three different versions of the standings. I’ll assume the ACC website has the official standings.
So, what if all three win their games? Common opponents might change from today.

Three (or More) Team Tie
The three (or more)team tiebreaker procedurewill be used to either(a)identify one championship game
participant,(b)identify both championship game participants, or(c) eliminate team(s)from the tie. If the
administration of the three (or more)team tiebreakerresults in the elimination of team(s)from the tie, teams
remain tied, and both championship game participants have not been determined, the tiebreaker procedure will
restart for remaining tied teams.
a. Combined head-to-head win-percentage among the tied teams if all tied teams are common opponents.
b. If all tied teams are not common opponents, the tied team that defeated each of the other tied teams.
i. If all tied teams are not common opponents and no tied team defeated each of the other tied teams, but a tied team lost to each of the other tied teams, such team shall be eliminated and removed from the tie.
c. Win-percentage against all common opponents.
d. Win-percentage against common opponents based upon their order of finish (overall conference win percentage, with ties broken) and proceeding through other common opponents based upon their order of finish.
e. Combined win-percentage of conference opponents.
f. The tied team with the highestranking by the Team Rating Score metric provided by SportSource Analytics following the conclusion of regular season games.
g. The participant shall be chosen by a draw as administered by the Commissioner or Commissioner’s designee.

The three teams did not play each other. So, (a) is out and (b) is out.
c) The common opponents are: Louisville (beat Pitt)… there may be others, but the rest would be wins for all three teams. So, Pitt is out?

If correct, that means SMU and UVA are in the “win-the-rest…” category.

Big 12: T-Tech and BYU are “win and they’re in.”
Can ASU topple these two in a three-way or four-way? Beat T-Tech, lost to UU.
Utah lost to both the top teams. They seem also to need a three- or four-way with ASU.

GoA Conference-Central Rankings 11/24/2025 (via AP)
Three Big Ten (0 change)
Five SEC (0)
One ACC (0)
One Big 12 (0)
One at-large (0)
ND (0)
No change from prior week.

Current normal rankings, rearranged to denote order of being chosen.

  1. Big Ten Champ (tOSU #1)
  2. SEC Champ (A And/Or M #3)
  3. Big 12 Champ (T-Tech #7)
  4. ACC Champ (Da U #13)
  5. Other (James Madison #20!)
  6. Big Ten (IU #2)
  7. SEC (UGA #4)
  8. Big Ten (Ore #5)
  9. SEC (Ole Miss #6)
  10. SEC (OU (#8)
  11. ND (#9)
  12. SEC (bama (#10)

SEC playing all their bye-weak games (or not at all) before their rivalry games.
A and/or M has not played any of the 1-loss teams. Not sure what happens if they lose to UTex. UTex lost to UGA as a common opponent.
UGA lost to bama. 'bama lost to OU. Ole Miss lost to UGA.
One good reason to move to nine conf games is to break these ties, which are more common when teams can’t play each other.
Regardless, two will play, and three others will not play to get (likely) into the CFP.

TX A&M and Alabama are both win and in. Alabama will advance on any 2, 3, or 4-team tiebreaks.
A&M is also in if they lose and both Alabama or Ole Miss lose.
GA needs either A&M or Bama to lose
Ole Miss needs to win and have both A&M and Bama to lose

The Game will be wet and white.

And prepare to meet Mr Angry Eyes. I.e., “Let’s try to get teams/schools riled up, so that College Football is more interesting.” Real “Day of The Dove” shit.

BYU, you’re out until you beat T-Tech, assuming you win and T-Tech win. Loser is out. Simple as that. Replace T-Tech with BYU, and the story is the same.
Worse fort Da-U. I don’t think they will play in the ACC Championship game, and they are essentially on the cusp. Some lowly-but-still-in-the-CFP SEC team will have to lose for them to jump. But:

But here’s a question: What if Miami’s real beef should be with the ACC, not with the committee?

Here’s an idea: win your games, and it doesn’t come down to this.

Biggest ignoring of this article: James Madison, not even ranked in CFP but ranked in both the other polls. Not sure what Tulane has besides the Epstein Files or something to get ranked at all.
JMU does have the weight of a shitty schedule and not blowing every team away, AND losing to the only Power 5 team on their schedule, Louisville.
Tulane: Beat NW and Duke, lost badly to Ole Miss, lost to UTSA,

Saw this blind resume test for the CFP in The Athletic and liked it. Here are 9 contenders for the 3 spots. I’ll give you the associated teams later.

College Football Playoff resumes

Metric Team A Team B Team C Team D Team E Team F Team G
Record 9-2 9-2 9-2 9-2 10-1 9-2 9-2
Strength of schedule 51 12 40 35 29 21 14
Strength of record 15 10 13 11 5 12 9
Record vs. CFP Top 25 1-2 3-2 1-1 2-2 2-1 0-2 3-1
Record vs. FBS winning teams 2-2 4-2 3-2 5-2 6-1 3-2 5-1
Record vs. FBS non-winning teams 6-0 4-0 5-0 4-0 3-0 5-0 3-1
Average FBS point differential 20.5 11.4 17 24 10.6 14.7 13.8
Combined FBS opponent record 59-51 69-41 56-54 65-55 66-44 55-55 66-44
Combined FBS opponent record win % 53.6% 62.7% 50.9% 54.2% 60% 50% 60%
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The blind resumes above seem to indicate teams G and B should be in. The third team is a little more debatable, but I’d lean E

Those teams:

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  • Team G: Alabama (currently: No. 10)
  • Team B: Oklahoma (No. 8)
  • Team E: BYU (No. 11)

Left out:

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  • Team A: Utah (No. 13)
  • Team C: Miami (No. 12)
  • Team D: Notre Dame (No. 9)
  • Team F: Vanderbilt (No. 14)

D is obviously

Notre Dame, due to their total FBS record indicating it has played no non-FBS teams (unlike the rest)

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I think it is a decent way to compare the teams.
OK, there are 6 auto bids. Not sure who the three “in-but-not-champions” are. one of tOSU/IU, I guess, and who else?
Also, I see only 7 teams.

I think there are only 5 automatic bids now after the demise of the PAC-12. The article is focused on the last 3 on the bubble, and doesn’t specify the other 4 teams in. I imagine they line up well with your conference rankings above.

I closed the Kiffin poll, as reportedly the decision will happen later today after the game or tomorrow AM. Sounds like Florida is out.

A and/or M backs into CFP. Probably didn’t matter if they lost this week or next.
I don’t see them dropping 9 spots.

A LOT of red-clad fans at michigan today.

agreed

This is Stewart Mandel’s take:

First 8:

Ohio State
Indiana
Texas A&M
Georgia
Texas Tech
Oregon
Ole Miss
Oklahoma

2 more:

ACC champ
G5 champ

That leaves these six realistic teams fighting for 2 at-large spots:

ND
Bama
BYU
Miami
Vandy
Texas

I mostly agree. Disagree that a 3 loss non champ could be in this year given other worthy teams, so throw out Texas. Alabama needs to win to be in IMO.

  1. I don’t see ND dropping in the rankings by not playing and after winning.
  2. Agreed that bama has to win conf champ. Seems UGA is in regardless.
  3. I don’t see T-Tech staying up if they lose, nor BYU in the running if they lose. So, as per GoA rankings, it’s one Big 12 Team.
  4. Da-U is on the bubble, needs 'bama to lose. Would help also if BYU also loses, in the rare case of two Big 12 teams
  5. Vandy not playing, so not in. I don’t see them jumping 3 spots in the next two rankings when no one else lost.
  6. Texas not playing, so not in. I don’t see them jumping 6 spots in the next two rankings when no one else lost.

Seems the CFP have sights on Tulane, though JMU has the eyes of AP and Coaches. I’m sure they have their reasons. If they both lose, though, UNLV if they win, I guess. 10-2.
How UNLV is playing on Friday, despite losing to two of the other three tied teams: