2024-25 WNBA Basketball Thread

First up: pervy jackhole reporter gonna pervy jackhole:

Q: would he make this “heart” exchange to a male player on the NBA’s Pacers?

Cuz it’s women and it’s not serious, he thinks it’s OK to flirt with her.

Wouldn’t be surprised if he did the heart thing to a Pacer he’d probably get a good beat down.

WNBA going to chartered flights. Wonder how much the players will be giving up in the future for that perk?

I don’t think it’s necessarily about making the “heart sign” that’s the core issue. It was the subsequent exchange.

Clark made it clear that her use of that symbolism is directed toward family and not fans (like Taylor Swift).

Doyel did the incredibly stupid thing and assumed that he should be viewed as “family”.

Unless there’s more to the guy that clear from additional interactions with female athletes, I think it’s an unfair conclusion to draw that he’s “flirting” just from what’s in the linked article.


Agreed. It doesn’t sound like he intended to be a sexist pig… it sounds like he was trying to establish rapport with a star player and went about it in an absolutely horrible way.

That said, I wasn’t there… additional context might lead me to change my mind on that.

And yeah it sounds like it was the request that she make the heart sign for him that was the problem… not him making the heart sign in the first place.

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If I got cancelled every time I did something awkward while trying to get a female’s attention, I’d be an even bigger pariah than I am now.

It’s sad that what this guy gets a punishment as severe as he got. Now, for the rest of his life, he’ll be known as the creep that had an awkward exchange with Caitlyn Clark, and people will remember him as a monster.

What, can’t go to games to report about them but still has his job? And can still report on games, but not at the game? Horrible punishment indeed.

For his career, the punishment is essentially equivalent to being put on a list of registered sex offenders.

He’s now infamous.

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Still has his job.

It’s likely he only has his job because the media outlet didn’t want even more bad pub by firing him, so they turn to neutering him and making his life so miserable he quits. Next, instead of being a sports journalist asking questions of athletes, he’s asking “would you like fries with that?”

It’s 30 or 40 seconds of the guy trying to be clever and endearing, which unfortunately came off as overly familiar and creepy. But it’s going to ruin the rest of his f’ing life.

Reporters have been barred from reporting on specific teams since forever, due to some slight or another. If this is your martyr, then I can’t do any more for you.

When a sports reporter asks a hard hitting question that highlights a team’s or a player’s lack of ability, effort, sportsmanship, or good decision making then he’s ostracized by the team but hero-worshipped by the media for being a a thorn in someone’s side. That’s what normally happens.

But this guy was macking on a young women that didn’t care for it, so he’s forever categorized with Bill Cosby, Donald Trump, and Armie.Hammer.

Cancel culture sucks for people who make minor indiscretions and take big hits as a result.

A no-brainer that Toronto is being awarded a WNBA team.

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First WNBA game I watched last week with the Fever. Only saw part of the 3rd quarter and the whole 4th. Did get to see the hard and dirty foul on Clark and have seen tons of stuff about it. I was very surprised they didn’t review it. Seems the WNBA is almost like the NBA of the 80’s and 90’s. Those women seem to foul hard when they foul. I love all the stuff I’ve been seeing but while it was hard and dirty, I didn’t think it warrants this level of scrutiny.

I think it comes down to: a lot of people who have not watched the WNBA decided to watch the WNBA and did not like what they saw. Apparently, rookies get a shit-ton of hard fouls in the WNBA.
Akin to hearing about this guy named Wayne Gretzky in the 1980’s and deciding to watch some hockey back then.
I mean, it is not as if the fouls aren’t called.

I do not understand the point of this particular foul, though.
Get into someone’s head that at anytime, even when the ball is not in play, she has to be aware and beware of shit going down?
Also, in real (/r) basketball, her teammates would be jumping in. I guess in the WNBA Basketball they think it’s OK for their own teammates to get the rookie treatment? Maybe in a few months they’ll step in or something stupid, after they get to know her better or something stupid.
Or maybe this happened after the all the video I see stopped.
I saw someone allege there was an elbow by Clark earlier, and that she’s a shit-talker. So, she’s gonna get the treatment until either she shuts up or backs it up.
Still not that interesting of a sport.

Should this really even be a consideration on whether a player makes the Olympic team?

Furthermore, according to Brennan, part of the reason she didn’t make the cut is that USA Basketball veterans had “concern about how Clark’s millions of fans would react to what would likely be limited playing time on a stacked roster.”

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Shouldn’t be. Trying to make a top roster that will, regardless, win the Gold Medal.

Worried about fan reaction? Apparently not worried about them when they chose not to put her on the squad. So, disingenuous.

I mean, what is the tryout process here? No idea if they even had one. She wasn’t on last summer’s AmeriCup team, all college players, despite being, according to wiki:

Clark won all major national player of the year awards: AP Player of the Year, the Honda Sports Award, the John R. Wooden Award, Naismith College Player of the Year, USBWA National Player of the Year and the Wade Trophy. She was the first unanimous national player of the year in Big Ten history.[104] Clark won the Nancy Lieberman Award for a second time and became the first three-time winner of the Dawn Staley Award.[105][106] She was a unanimous first-team All-American for a second straight season, earning first-team recognition from the AP and USBWA and making the WBCA Coaches’ All-America Team.[107][108][109] As a junior, Clark averaged 27.8 points, 8.6 assists and 7.1 rebounds per game, leading Division I in assists and ranking second in scoring. She set Big Ten single-season records in points, assists, three-pointers and free throws, and tied her own conference record with five triple-doubles.[104] She had the fourth-most points and assists and the third-most three-pointers in a season in Division I history.[110] Following the season, Clark won the Best Female College Athlete ESPY Award and the Honda Cup, both honoring the top women’s college athlete,[111][112] and the James E. Sullivan Award, presented annually by the AAU to the top college or Olympic athlete in the United States.[113] She was selected as the Big Ten Female Athlete of the Year.[114]

Questions are:

  1. How many Point Guards does the team need?
  2. Is she worthy to be chosen as one of the best that the USWBT can put on the roster?
  3. Could she play any other position (“bench role sharpshooter”) that would qualify her to be placed on the roster?

Maybe she hasn’t represented the USA enough…
No, that’s not the case:

Junior national team

Clark represented the United States at the 2017 FIBA Under-16 Women’s Americas Championship in Buenos Aires, Argentina. She came off the bench and averaged 8.8 points per game, helping her team achieve a 5–0 record and win the gold medal.[170] Clark played at the 2019 FIBA Under-19 Women’s Basketball World Cup in Bangkok, Thailand. In seven games, she averaged 5.3 points per game and won another gold medal, as her team finished with a 7–0 record.[171] Clark competed at the 2021 FIBA Under-19 Women’s Basketball World Cup in Debrecen, Hungary and led the United States to the gold medal. She averaged a team-high 14.3 points, 5.6 assists, and 5.3 rebounds per game, was named Most Valuable Player and made the All-Tournament Team.[172]

So, must be something else. I don’t think it is crazy whitlock’s theory, though.

no, not if expectations are set early. and it should raise interest ( and $$). the original dream teams had HoF level players filling in off the bench

I feel more established players are jealous of her notoriety. Johnson and Bird came to the NBA as a tandem. She is alone on this increased interest.

I would have thought that they would want to get as many eye’s on the team as possible. Unless there is a huge drop off in talent and/or the opposition is becoming much better (the US has won gold in the last 6 straight olympics 54-0 since 1996) you would expect that all 12 players are going to see time. And don’t you want more eye’s on the other players as well to showcase the product to more viewers which will hopefully turn into more eye’s on the WNBA product?

Just seems like women’s basketball isn’t really trying to hype the product enough while there is more interest.

BTW, I did read that the #1 PG has been hurt and there is still a chance that she won’t be able to play in the olympics and they could substitute an alternate for her. Of course, the way they seem to be going, that alternate probably wouldn’t be Clark.

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