# 2022 FIFA World Cup Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427>\
**Category:** Sports\
**Created:** [March 25, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427 "2021-03-25T16:32:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/greenman/32/1904_2.png) [@greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/greenman)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/268 "2022-06-06T13:34:36Z")

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Welcome to the party Wales!

UAE/AUS tomorrow at 1 CDT on Paramount+

**Slots Remaining - 2**

**CONMEBOL / AFC Playoff - 1**  
UAE vs Australia (June 7 in Doha)  
Peru vs UAE/Australia winner (June 13 in Doha)

**CONCACAF / OFC Playoff - 1**  
Costa Rica vs New Zealand (June 14 in Doha)

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**Author:** ![greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/greenman/32/1904_2.png) [@greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/greenman)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/269 "2022-06-06T13:39:26Z")

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If I used google correctly, that will be a 9PM local kick tomorrow night. High in Doha tomorrow is 109. Air temp at kick will be 93 with a “real feel” of 103.

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**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/270 "2022-06-06T13:43:39Z")

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So that’s why they’re not putting on the finals in summer.

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**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/271 "2022-06-06T14:45:03Z")

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Wait, this is wrong. Forgot to carry the one, mg-hey.  
USA matches are at 10PM local time, which is UTC+3, and I’m in UTC-8, so 11AM my time, right?

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**Author:** ![greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/greenman/32/1904_2.png) [@greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/greenman)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/272 "2022-06-06T14:55:06Z")

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> [@dr\_t\_non-fan](#):
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> USA matches are at 10PM local time, which is UTC+3, and I’m in UTC-8, so 11AM my time, right?

All US group matches are at 1pm CST. You can do the math from that.

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**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/273 "2022-06-06T14:58:06Z")

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I think I already did the math.

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**Author:** ![Ted\_Hoffman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/ted_hoffman/32/83127_2.png) [@Ted\_Hoffman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Ted_Hoffman)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/274 "2022-06-06T16:44:27Z")

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> [@dr\_t\_non-fan](#):
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> USA matches are at 10PM local time, which is UTC+3, and I’m in UTC-8, so 11AM my time, right?

> [@greenman](#):
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> All US group matches are at 1pm CST. You can do the math from that.

Just do like a real actuary does: make an estimate, refine it later as more information becomes available. You’ve got like 166 or so days to get it right, surely we can figure it out between now and then.

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**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/275 "2022-06-06T17:02:04Z")

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I need to ask myself, “What time do I want it to be?”

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**Author:** ![greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/greenman/32/1904_2.png) [@greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/greenman)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/276 "2022-06-06T19:22:27Z")

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DTNF brought this up in the US thread, but here are betting odds for the WC

To advance from Group B  
England -1100  
Wales +100  
US +125  
Iran +230

To win Group B  
England -240  
Wales +490  
US +700  
Iran +1300

And no respect for our friends to the north

Advance from Group F  
Belgium -850  
Croatia -170  
Morocco +155  
Canada +280

Win Group F  
Belgium -175  
Croatia +290  
Morocco +850  
Canada +1300

[https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/soccer/fifa-world-cup?tab=futures](https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/soccer/fifa-world-cup?tab=futures)

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**Author:** ![IPD](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/ipd/32/179_2.png) [@IPD](https://community.goactuary.com/u/IPD)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/277 "2022-06-06T20:13:26Z")

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Mentioned it in the other thread but here is a better spot to discuss. I’ll take the US over Wales. I think there is a bias towards Wales with them being from UEFA and seeing Garreth Bale on the roster. Hes fine and all but they are like the oldest team in the torunament. They were lucky to beat Ukraine at home. Our players are playing with better club teams on average and our player valuations on transfer market crush Wales. Was certainly happy to see them beat Ukraine as a US fan trying to advance in this group.

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**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/278 "2022-06-06T22:34:58Z")

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I’ll just be happy if the Canadian team shows up in Qatar and plays it’s three games.

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**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/279 "2022-06-07T01:46:19Z")

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A reminder that the World Cup should be starting this Friday if FIFA hadn’t originally thought hosting it in the desert in summer was a good idea if enough cash was involved

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**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/280 "2022-06-07T20:06:03Z")

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Australia squeaked through to the next match against Peru. Doesn’t sound like anyone died from heatstroke yet.

Peru would be favorite given they beat Australia in the last World Cup. Hoping for an upset!

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**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/281 "2022-06-07T20:22:16Z")

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Have gotten two emails from Canada Soccer today begging me to go to the Curaçao match on Thursday night. First one offered me two for the price of one tickets: the second a 75% discount. I am so peaved with both Canada Soccer and the players that I wouldn’t go if they gave me a free ticket. They have totally destroyed the excitement and good feelings the fans had about this team and their recent success.

[https://www.newswwc.com/world/canada/canada-soccer-boots-golden-financial-opportunity-with-failed-matches-cbc-news/](https://www.newswwc.com/world/canada/canada-soccer-boots-golden-financial-opportunity-with-failed-matches-cbc-news/)

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**Author:** ![greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/greenman/32/1904_2.png) [@greenman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/greenman)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/282 "2022-06-08T13:56:41Z")

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Socceroos move on to face La Blanquirroja next week

**Slots Remaining - 2**

**CONMEBOL / AFC Playoff - 1**  
Peru vs Australia (June 13 in Doha)

**CONCACAF / OFC Playoff - 1**  
Costa Rica vs New Zealand (June 14 in Doha)

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**Author:** ![Ted\_Hoffman](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/ted_hoffman/32/83127_2.png) [@Ted\_Hoffman](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Ted_Hoffman)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/283 "2022-06-08T14:30:28Z")

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If Australia plays the kind of game it typically has, Peru will probably go through 2-0 or so because it plays into their hands. It’s one game, most of the world expects you to not win, most everyone expects you to be really conservative and mostly park the bus and hope for breakouts, … if you’re ever going to throw caution to the wind and crank up the pressure and play wide-open soccer, do it here. It’s a style Peru won’t play and isn’t expecting.

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**Author:** ![Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Actuary321](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Actuary321)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/284 "2022-06-08T21:17:25Z")

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> [@dr\_t\_non-fan](#):
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> I need to ask myself, “What time do I want it to be?”

With TiVo, I thought you already asked that question.

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**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/285 "2022-06-08T22:47:35Z")

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For World Cup? Those not listed yet.

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**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/286 "2022-06-10T17:04:35Z")

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There’s a report out that Toronto and Vancouver will be the only Canadian host cities for WC26. Edmonton was thought to be a potential host.  
[https://www.blogto.com/sports\_play/2022/06/toronto-to-be-named-host-city-fifa-world-cup-soccer-2026/](https://www.blogto.com/sports_play/2022/06/toronto-to-be-named-host-city-fifa-world-cup-soccer-2026/)

Edmonton mayor says they are still “all in” and waiting for the official announcement June 16th

> **[Sohi says city has not heard from FIFA amid report Edmonton is out of 2026...](https://www.ctvnews.ca/edmonton/article/sohi-says-city-has-not-heard-from-fifa-amid-report-edmonton-is-out-of-2026-world-cup/)**
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> Mayor Amarjeet Sohi says he won't speculate about Edmonton's World Cup bid after a report suggested Alberta's capital city won't host matches in 2026.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2022-fifa-world-cup-discussion-thread/2427/287 "2022-06-10T17:19:22Z")

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I hope the reports are true and that Vancouver is indeed chosen. In the past two weeks I twice had tickets refunded for the men’s games here in Vancouver so still have not seen the team in person.

I am puzzled though by why Toronto’s costs to be a host are so high?

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