# 2020, er, 2021 Euro's **URL:** \ **Category:** Sports\ **Created:** [June 9, 2021, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120 "2021-06-09T19:38:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/arthuritas/32/63_2.png) [@ArthurItas](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ArthurItas)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/41 "2021-06-16T16:20:09Z")
I think UEFA/France screwed up not taking Pavard out yesterday. Even in real time without the benefit of slow-mo you could see his head hit the turf so he was clearly briefly knocked out. Post game he acknowledged he was knocked out10-15 seconds. There’s been a lot of big talk about enhanced concussion protocols, but when a big match is on the line any possible evidence of head injury is ignored. The current head injury protocol is apparently to squirt a little water on their head and put them right back in. ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/42 "2021-06-16T18:30:57Z")
I think the **official** current concussion protocol is not followed. [https://www.espn.com/soccer/france-fra/story/4411000/benjamin-pavard-injury-at-euro-2020-france-insist-they-followed-uefa-protocol-vs-germany-sources](https://www.espn.com/soccer/france-fra/story/4411000/benjamin-pavard-injury-at-euro-2020-france-insist-they-followed-uefa-protocol-vs-germany-sources) I mean, it’s quite possible he was alright during the match, and alright today. The protocol is assumes the worst, in that everyone who gets a head injury has a concussion. Problem is that we don’t really have the knowledge to determine each individual’s risk of concussion. (Neither does the player, so that’s not a good source.) Best to have a blanket protocol, along with a “this doesn’t count as one of our substitutes” rule. ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/43 "2021-06-16T18:32:34Z")
[https://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-european-championship/story/4410525/paul-pogba-antonio-rudigers-nibble-should-not-face-action](https://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-european-championship/story/4410525/paul-pogba-antonio-rudigers-nibble-should-not-face-action) Seemed more like a little teasing, not an intent to injure. But, I don’t think that is acceptable teasing. One match ban IMO. ---
**Author:** ![ALivelySedative](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/alivelysedative/32/1337_2.png) [@ALivelySedative](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ALivelySedative)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/44 "2021-06-16T18:40:04Z")
Agree the context of knowing each other a long time does lessen how severe it appears in hindsight, but the history of consequences for biting should have probably still dissuaded it. Could have easily turned into a big deal. ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/45 "2021-06-16T18:43:26Z")
Agreed. Initially seeing it it looked rough and then seeing it in the replay it looked really rough. Even the announcers were like he’s done and then oh I guess not ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/46 "2021-06-16T18:45:24Z")
It’s interesting because he complained about it right there and then, and the only decision would have been a red card. There is nothing in the Laws about “light nibbling” being a lesser offense than “biting.” But he didn’t get the guy off the field (the assistant had no clear view), so, move on. That’s Pogba. ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/47 "2021-06-16T18:46:36Z")
> [@dr\_t\_non-fan](#): > > “light nibbling” 😆 “just one bite!” ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/48 "2021-06-16T19:27:11Z")
Do you guys stream the matches on ESPN+? Having trouble getting the main stream to work for the Italy match, can only seem to get the “Alternate” which isn’t as good. ---
**Author:** ![ALivelySedative](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/alivelysedative/32/1337_2.png) [@ALivelySedative](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ALivelySedative)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/49 "2021-06-16T19:32:29Z")
I’m getting the main stream just fine here. It’s just regular ESPN tho, not ESPN+ pretty sure? ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/50 "2021-06-16T19:32:44Z")
I am TiVo’ing whatever is on ESPN, watching at my leisure at slightly faster speed 90-minute match takes about 65 minutes, with audio commentary), and going underground until I watch. I can watch them on an iPad at regular speed while I work. For Euros, I’m watching France and England group matches. Not sure how much of knockout rounds I’ll watch. For Copa, watching ARG matches, though I watched the BRA first match. Nice that Euro’s are on in the morning, and the Copa’s are on in the afternoon. Gold Cup could be played at night now instead of a month later, losing the Euro league players. ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/51 "2021-06-16T19:34:39Z")
This was my problem, thank you! ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/52 "2021-06-16T19:35:46Z")
Why watch the group matches and not elimination? Or are you pessimistic about France and England’s chances? Haha. And morning, PST…? ---
**Author:** ![dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@dr\_t\_non-fan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/dr_t_non-fan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/53 "2021-06-16T19:37:57Z")
Yes, PDT. I was thinking about watching MORE elimination matches, not just ENG and FRA. So, not sure how much **more**. Guessing that ESPN will help me make that decision (by putting some of them on The Plus). ---
**Author:** ![knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/knoath/32/65607_2.png) [@knoath](https://community.goactuary.com/u/knoath)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/54 "2021-06-16T21:15:58Z")
I think of “nibbling” as applying to herbivores, so maybe he was just intending to eat the shirt. ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/55 "2021-06-17T19:34:59Z")
If a player was born in Crimea would he play for Ukraine or Russia? ---
**Author:** ![ALivelySedative](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/alivelysedative/32/1337_2.png) [@ALivelySedative](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ALivelySedative)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/56 "2021-06-17T19:43:48Z")
Something similar to dual citizenship may apply, provided not already cap-tied? 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/normaldan/32/1013_2.png) [@NormalDan](https://community.goactuary.com/u/NormalDan)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/57 "2021-06-17T19:47:19Z")
That makes sense, in line with UEFA’s international agreeableness ---
**Author:** ![R\_Daneel\_Olivaw](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/r_daneel_olivaw/32/420_2.png) [@R\_Daneel\_Olivaw](https://community.goactuary.com/u/R_Daneel_Olivaw)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/58 "2021-06-17T20:02:20Z")
Given the recognition issues for most of UEFAs member states I’d say the Ukraine. ---
**Author:** ![Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/cooke/32/15467_2.png) [@Cooke](https://community.goactuary.com/u/Cooke)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/59 "2021-06-18T21:39:12Z")
England can surprise negatively some times, e.g. Scotland match…. ---
**Author:** ![ALivelySedative](https://community.goactuary.com/user_avatar/community.goactuary.com/alivelysedative/32/1337_2.png) [@ALivelySedative](https://community.goactuary.com/u/ALivelySedative)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.goactuary.com/t/2020-er-2021-euros/3120/60 "2021-06-19T21:12:19Z")
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